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    Beg your pardon the LH and LX Toranas were Australian designed, even down to the motor, get your facts right and check the history. The HB and LJ were based on an Opel / Vauxhall variant. There is not a decent Ford ever produced that has not been based on a US or Mexican variant.
    I am glad you said fastest 4 door cause the E49 was quicker but is a 2 door.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    Did you come to this incredulous conclusion because you OWNED a GTHO or are you just passing on the crap that most holden fans make up as they go, I owned a XY GT (not HO) and it was the quickest off the factory floor 4 door car in the world at that time, around corners too, back in 1971 there was nothing on the street that would even go close to the GT. For all those Holden Fans out there that believe Holdens were designed in Australia, think again, Opel, Vauxhall and Pontiac are the basis of Australia's own, the only way holden could beat Ford was to import a Vauxhall from England (Torana) and stuff a Big 6 and a V8 into a small 4cyl. car weighing half as much and go racing, when Ford countered by bringing in the Ford Sierras all the holden fans chucked a Tizzy because they didn't like watching their Vauxhalls (Toranas) get their a*$e kicked. I dont mind competition between Ford and Holden (GMC Chevrolet), but lets call a spade a spade and have no more rubbish about Holden being Australia's own, Ford have never claimed to be Australia's own and all Ford Falcons since 1971 have been designed and engineered by Australians in Australia and you can thank Ford Australia for the UTE, first designed and engineered by an Australian in Australia and built by Ford Australia, Regards Frank.
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    Hello all,i have one thing to say.GO THE FORDS!.

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    Jeremy did drive a Monaro a little while back and his review was full of praise comparing costs to similar powered Eurotrash cars. BMWs and Mercs are no better than Furd or Holden and are just a standard car in Germany. Have to say tosing up to buy a BMW or Statesman the Stato was much better value for money.
    Did like the XR6 Turbo package though, first thing Furd have got right in a long time but not their V8.
    Quote Originally Posted by MarknDeb View Post
    Holden they say its better than a BMW
    Ford well i wouldn’t own one but at least they done make a ridiculous statement like above.

    I hope Jeremy Clarkson comes out and test drives the crumbledoor to ridicule it like he does the yanks cars
    and show it for what it really is.
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    Are you Sweedish, Did you say go the Fjords???
    Quote Originally Posted by master chief View Post
    Hello all,i have one thing to say.GO THE FORDS!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigE View Post
    Beg your pardon the LH and LX Toranas were Australian designed, even down to the motor, get your facts right and check the history. The HB and LJ were based on an Opel / Vauxhall variant. There is not a decent Ford ever produced that has not been based on a US or Mexican variant.
    I am glad you said fastest 4 door cause the E49 was quicker but is a 2 door.
    Correct, and by FORDs own admission would have won Bathurst if it had not been for FORD getting Ferodo to make a special compound pad for its brakes and then FORGETTING to tell the others it was available (back then technology had to be available to everyone)...

    Fords management went to great lengths to ensure it wasnt disclosed prior to the race or the Charger would have kicked its ar$e.

    On a different note, I've had the Holdens and the Fords...

    I've been a CAMS official and worked at Bathurst...

    Let me just say, the only part of the car that is the brand is the cabin....... And sort of, the engine...

    Nothing else is either brands.....

    Also, its a well known fact the GTHO engines were tuned well beyond the regulations...... And when revved hard often cracked the front of the block...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigE View Post
    Did like the XR6 Turbo package though, first thing Furd have got right in a long time but not their V8.
    Nope... Now its alright...

    The BA and early BFs are reknown for going "pop"

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    Bring back the Super Tourers........

    Lets watch the Real cars flog it out....
    Volvo, BMW, Mercedes, Alfaromeo, Ford, Vauxhaul ect.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sclarke View Post
    Bring back the Super Tourers........

    Lets watch the Real cars flog it out....
    Volvo, BMW, Mercedes, Alfaromeo, Ford, Vauxhaul ect.....
    we might be able to buy one of those----



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    Ohhhhh
    Forgot....

    Mate of mine worked for Harry Firth in the 60's and 70's

    That bloke can tell you the REAL Story behind racing....

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    Are you serious ???? Who wants to listen to a heap of rice burners run around . Everyone loves the supercars because they are V8's .Everyone loves the roar of a 5ltr cracked open not the sound of a 4cyl that sounds like a cat howling into a microphone .

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