in the words of arnold " you are all big girly men"
At the end of the day, its a track with 100 year turn around, get over it and stop bagging other 4 wheel drivers, everyone is on the same side, regardless of what you think should and shouldn't de driven
I'll take you all out in my backyard and show you the once stripped mountains that were once farmland in the early 20th century and have a look now, see if you can tell
Its a little patch of dirt, the reason to be so careful of tracks etc, is to appeal to the whingers of the world, because its what is seen, when their are many more harmful things done
Dont think I'm a hoon, I HATE rubbish droppers, and but everyone else is their for fun, with all these bloody standards it'd be easier to just stay indoors
If you can't afford to damage your car, simple, go around or don't go at all, just like Ron said, but whinging that people are hooning, wayne kerrs etc, is dividing a group, that needs as many numbers as possible
People with stock ones bagging modified ones, modified ones bagging those with stock ones, what a joke!
We're all 4 wheel drivers, we all need to stick together
Edit: not actually directed to one in particular, but most posters
Last edited by rovercare; 19th October 2007 at 03:44 PM.
in the words of arnold " you are all big girly men"
I cant believe some of the comments I am reading. There was absolutely no evidence of hooning in that video. I posted the video so you could all see exactly what was being judged. Not so that you could all start having a scrag fight among yourselves! Fairdinkum ladies, pull your skirts up an realise the problem. Media outlets across this country have persistently singled out and vilified 4wds and their owners. This Footage was another case, that this time went too far, selling on myth, lies and innuendo. I have spoken directly to the driver of the said red Hilux, I can confirm it was his first time out, in his first 4wd. He had absolutely no intent to cause damage. The onlookers that were giggling were doing so at his expense in regard to a comment he made earlier that day re his skills, not that fact that he was damaging the environment.
I say good on him, he gave it ago, more balls than common sense maybe, but he wanted to learn. We as 4wders enjoy the challenge of track its part of the hype that goes with 4wding. We all learn our capabilities when we reach them, he came close but he did get the vehicle out damage free and very little damage to the track. Let me also say that these same blokes skull dragged burnt out and wrecked cars from this area in 4wd club organised clean ups, which would of caused ten times the soil erosion this episode caused, much to the delight of the local councillor that in this instance now wants all 4wds banned from the area.
Its all well and good saying lets take the chicken track but often there isn't one and learn we must, and evidently the the recent formation of the other track suggests that indeed this was the case with this area not so long ago. Is it environmentally wrong to erode a little soil spinning the wheels to get out or push a new track so that people whom don't wish to damage their trucks can continue in their pride and joy? With out so much as a scratch!
The track in case is not a gazetted fire trail either and NO fire truck would even attempt going down it as it was and always was declared “'dead mans zone” ie if a fire was close, this area would be back burnt only.
At the end of the day we as 4wders are tared with the same brush. And its an image that we must ALL work on. We must lend our support to this cause not taking moral high ground ( or chicken tracks) abusing each other with out being fully furnished with the facts. We all have an opinion weather we would or wouldn't take the other track, but we all have the same goal: to enjoy the bush and if this type of gutter garbage tabloid gets its way you wont get the choice anymore, the gates will be shut!
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Most of the tracks we all drive would have been originally been made to log or mine that area. I don't think there would be any virgin bush in Australia that hasn't been logged at some time.
Its time that areas are set aside for us to enjoy our sport. If they can spend millions on kayak white water courses, why not us.
Just a foot note to my last post. After numerous letters and emails of compliant the paper concerned attended a meeting today organised by the 4wders. They had a photo shop and were made aware of the inaccuracies in their story. They have agreed to print a remission and have agreed to print some good news stories with regard to 4wds.
This solidarity shows that as one voice we can have a say!
As I work in the RFS and part of my job is related to fire trail maintenance, I'm not going to pass much comment except to say there isn't any such thing as a gazetted fire trail in NSW. Only trails over various managed lands that may be there for fire management purposes.
Martyn
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