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    From Wikipedia

    Road accident statistics on a model-by-model basis from the UK Department of Transport show that the Land Rover Defender and Land Rover Discovery are the safest cars on British roads (measured in terms of chance of death in two car injury accidents) - between three times safer than the safest Volvo models, twice as safe (half the death-rate per two vehicles injury accident) compared with the Jeep Cherokee and Toyota Land Cruiser and only matched by the Mercedes-Benz S-Class and Jaguar XJ.

    These statistics do not take into account single vehicle accidents, like rollovers.


    Don't know if it's been pointed out before...
    Take THAT anti 4WD lobby!

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    hhahahaha

    I got no probs, but im sure they willbe quick t point out that the reason you dont get injured in a LR is because you mangle the car you hit... :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hymie View Post

    These statistics do not take into account single vehicle accidents, like rollovers.

    The bolded above are the statistics which may be worth looking at.

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    I suspect that UK figures may not apply to Australia, because Landrovers are far less common.

    However, it might be worth looking at the Monash University paper on four wheel drives. This includes a much quoted section showing that the risk of fatal rollovers in four wheel drives is high compared to other classes.

    Much less quoted is the overall conclusion that large four wheel drives are under-represented by any measure in both accidents and casualties, including injuries and deaths to occupants of other vehicles, pedestrians and cyclists.

    It is suggested that the reason for this result, which is counter-intuitive, is that the driver is much more important than the vehicle, and the type of driver that chooses a large four wheel drive is a type that is less accident prone. This is supported by the fact that the statistically most dangerous type of car (by far) is the sports car - most of which have far better handling, brakes and safety features than most four wheel drives.

    I can't find a reference to the report at the moment, but it is based on Australian and New Zealand accident data.

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