Thread: Dazzling new toyota technology

How about a quick check of google and the kinetics site eh?

It IS actually KDSS, and waaaay fancier than ACE. Also in simplest form, probably more reliable.

Kinetics generally make good ****. Atleast for racing purposes.

The coloured lines are hydraulic.

I was reading about this in 4wd mags back in about 97.

They have fitted it to Unimogs, Landrovers/Perenti's and Nissan Patrol's (GQ) were the test rigs at the time and they were having trouble with getting a computer system to work as fast as the Hydronumatic system could.

It was pretty amazing what they could do with it but no matter how good technology is when it's new, it will fail eventually as all parts do and it is 1 thing that you cant do without is your suspention.

At least with a coil, worst comes to worse you weld it up and keep the guts off the ground.

Andrew Richmond (LRA) ran a much more crude system in his old orange rangie back in about 2001.

Nothing all that new but just updated Id say.

I had a similar system fittted to my '87 County when I bought it!; it had a ram on front left and rear right of a special anti-roll bar, that pushed/pulled via a pendulum that opened/closed a hydraulic valve, so as you went around a corner, the pendulum would swing opening one route for the fluid, and closing the other. The system was fed by a separate hydraulic pump/reservoir via the A/C fan belts. It was great for high speed cornering-highway use, but found it too restrictive off-road & removed it. I've seen advertisements in old 4WD mags from the early eighties, for these units, they are definitely nothing new, and were available for any 4x4 of that period!. Apparently they were hideously expensive!.
'ACE'-old technology with a tweak.......probably unrealiable long term.....

I have an idea -

4 hydraulic rams (1 per wheel) all linked to a common reservoir.

The reservoir itself is a bigger hydraulic ram with a coil spring providing tension (pushing in) to the reservoir ram. The coil spring mounting plate has a screw mechanism which allows for more or less spring tension on the reservoir.

This way the movement of one wheel is partially compensated for by the other three, while the reservoir (larger bore, lower resistance) offers additional dampening and takes the harshness out of any maneuver.

The adjustable spring not only allows for stiffening the suspension, but also for raising it.

Now if only I had the workshop to build it.

typical of toyota. copy what LR does about 10 yrs ago and claim it as their own. if compared to LR all they'll say is that what LR came out with was primitive and rudimentary compared to their much improved system.
but i read something interesting in the herald today;-
'Quick' response on Toyota quality issues Toyota is "mortified" that its recent quality glitches have tarnished the company's reputation for well-built vehicles. A series of embarrassing quality issues has led to service campaigns to rectify problems in recent months, rocking a company renowned for quality and reliability. good to see some of their many shortcomings are being noticed

so you mean it gives a bit of a lift via hydraulics
like LR did with pneumatics years ago?
well whoop-de-doo

Originally Posted by HangOver

so you mean it gives a bit of a lift via hydraulics
like LR did with pneumatics years ago?
well whoop-de-doo

Or perhaps something like Citroen introduced more than fifty years ago? Maybe their patents have expired.

John

no! the hydraulics simply put pressure on the side/corner that wants to dip when cornering to keep the car level. has nothing to do with suspension height.