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Thread: 95 d1 worked over for towing versus DIII TDV6 OR 200 SERIES

  1. 21st November 2007, 02:30 PM #1
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    95 d1 worked over for towing versus DIII TDV6 OR 200 SERIES

    Hi all.

    I posted this in the tech section when really it should be here. Dont get my wrong I love rovers and have both a 95 auto and an 02 manual (02 since new, 95 for 5 years) - both V8s on LPG.

    I am at a cross-roads. I have a 95 D1 3.9. I have a 2 tonn boat that it tows OK, but it works for a living (the D2 tows it better again but is a Lease car and will go soon - unfortunately in a way). The 95 has been very well maintained. I was thinking of doing a bore and stroke and ported and polished heads with bigger valves and getting another 150hp or so and using it as my tow vehicle and mud puppy (I love beach camping so that name is not spot on, but you get my drift). The standard ZF auto sits behind the current motor.

    The other alternative is to say goodbye to the old girl and (through my business) splash out the dough and lease either a DIII or a new 200 series Cruiser TTD (with mountains of torque). I know that there will still be a very big dollar deficit in the new vehicle compared to doing up the old one.

    I will eventually consider a heavier boat - close to 3 tonn and will be towing it. My question is, despite the Twin hair dryer 200 series having more torque than a worked Rover V8 could ever get close to (and 200kw of power) how would a well set up D1 with a very powerful engine compare towing such big weights. Its brakes are pretty ordinary. Its wheelbase it short. Has anyone upped the anti on a D1 and towed such large weights with it and can compare to even say a 100 series Cruiser to give me an idea?

    In addition to the D1's engine re-build, I would have to look at re-co auto (240,000 on the clock at the moment - ks) stiffer springs and poly airs, a 2 inch lift for off road, and probably a locker or 2 for offroad, good roof rack in order to compete with a 200 series for space. The radiator is new so thats taken care of for cooling - and perhaps a brake conversion - all up probably $10- 12 grand at a rough guess.

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  2. 21st November 2007, 02:39 PM #2
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    For that type of weight I would buy a VW tourag V10,or moor the boat. Pat
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  3. 21st November 2007, 03:15 PM #3
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    Disco 3 TDV6 would be my choice
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  4. 21st November 2007, 03:23 PM #4
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    Thanks fellas - like the option of moving boat from ramp to ramp, place to place. I also dont like the $2,000 - $3,000 rack storage fees. I like having my boats at home to play with also (I usually do a lot of work on them myself).

    I dont like the Toureg because for the price there aint much room and even though they are pretty good off road they are nothing compared to a Disco (of any series). I should have said, but I still want the tow car to be a good offroader.

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  5. 21st November 2007, 06:23 PM #5
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    Go the D3!

    Dad's got a V6 SE and except for slower accelerattion you can hardly tell when the boat is on the back of it at any speed.

    Our boat is about 2.2t so I'm sure you could tow even more weight with the D3. I'd give the LC a go too because that Twin Turbo Oil burner sounds very nice.
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  6. 21st November 2007, 07:20 PM #6
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    There are some rumours going around about the LC TDV8 blowing pistons. Don't know (or care) how true they are though.
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  7. 22nd November 2007, 08:14 AM #7
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    Now Im seriously considering trading the D1 on a small new car for wifee and re-leasing my D2 and flog her to tow bigger weights if needs be. I cant see myself without an LR at any stage.

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  8. 22nd November 2007, 08:27 AM #8
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    G'day Ozscott

    In the intrests of safety, if you are thinking of upgrading to a 3 tonne boat, I would suggest that you look at getting a F250!!! as if anything goes wrong with a boat that weight on the back, God Help the OTHER Motorists and I have seen the results of underweight cars/commercials pulling OVERWEIGHT trailers/caravans

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  9. 22nd November 2007, 08:52 AM #9
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    Yep - you might be right about that.

    Has anyone towed 2.5 tonn with a D2 who can let me know how they go. Thats not too far over the D2 weight - and about even with the DII when its both gas and fueled up with people in.

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  10. 22nd November 2007, 08:55 AM #10
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    they are rated to 3.5 ton so you would imagine it to be fine... i know plenty one here tow big weights... so im sure they will pipe up soon...

    landyandy if i remember right pulls loads of wood of a few ton with his ... if i remember the posts right...

    thanks

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