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    Help with a VIN

    Hi Everyone,

    I'm looking at buying a 97' SE 4.0 P38A Range Rover. I'm a little confused by the VIN. The VIN on the plate, on the roadworthy, and on the rego is SALLPAMB3TA342014 and the engine number is 44D00569A. I've checked this with V Check (checkitout.com.au) for $20....and it all seems to check out....1997, SE, 8 Cylinder, Petrol etc... The problem is when I use calVIN on the same VIN it says the engine (8th digit) should be a 2.5l turbo diesel. I have seen 2 other vehicles listed for sale (P38 4.0 SE's) and their VIN's also have 'B' as the 8th digit....I'm totally confused. Have I missed something?...are these vehicles not right...or are there special codes for VIN's used in Australia?

    I would really appreciate any help.

    Regards,

    Bruce

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucep View Post
    Hi Everyone,

    I'm looking at buying a 97' SE 4.0 P38A Range Rover. I'm a little confused by the VIN. The VIN on the plate, on the roadworthy, and on the rego is SALLPAMB3TA342014 and the engine number is 44D00569A. I've checked this with V Check (checkitout.com.au) for $20....and it all seems to check out....1997, SE, 8 Cylinder, Petrol etc... The problem is when I use calVIN on the same VIN it says the engine (8th digit) should be a 2.5l turbo diesel. I have seen 2 other vehicles listed for sale (P38 4.0 SE's) and their VIN's also have 'B' as the 8th digit....I'm totally confused. Have I missed something?...are these vehicles not right...or are there special codes for VIN's used in Australia?

    I would really appreciate any help.

    Regards,

    Bruce
    Bruce, AFAIK the 4.0 is SALLPAMB3TA......, The 4.6 is SALLPAMM3TA...... Not sure of the diesel numbers, but the P38 had a 3litre BMW diesel anyway I thought...??May be wrong, anyone else?


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    Hmm you get the same looking at Dingo Croft (Vin number chart post '79) to. I'd be putting this to one of the guy's on the forum who work at a dealers and can check it.
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    My new 97 4.6 HSE is SALLPAMD3VA361075 and engine number is 48D005617A ...according to the VIN checker ..mine should be a diesel as well ..with the 8th character being a 'D'..!!!..it's certainly a 4.6.!!..got the petrol receipts to prove it..

    Maybe someone can let us know what is going on with the VIN's in Australia..are they different to Europe and the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucep View Post
    Hi Everyone,

    I'm looking at buying a 97' SE 4.0 P38A Range Rover. I'm a little confused by the VIN. The VIN on the plate, on the roadworthy, and on the rego is SALLPAMB3TA342014 and the engine number is 44D00569A. I've checked this with V Check (checkitout.com.au) for $20....and it all seems to check out....1997, SE, 8 Cylinder, Petrol etc... The problem is when I use calVIN on the same VIN it says the engine (8th digit) should be a 2.5l turbo diesel. I have seen 2 other vehicles listed for sale (P38 4.0 SE's) and their VIN's also have 'B' as the 8th digit....I'm totally confused. Have I missed something?...are these vehicles not right...or are there special codes for VIN's used in Australia?

    I would really appreciate any help.

    Regards,

    Bruce
    Bruce

    Classic Land Rover comes up with the same data (below) I would have thought the engine code should be "M"

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    Range Rover (P38A)
    VIN number : SALLPAMB3TA342014.
    Manufacturer code SAL Land Rover
    Model code LP Range Rover (P38A)
    Wheelbase / Trim level A 108"
    Body M 5-door Station Wagon
    Engine B 2.5l turbodiesel (engine model 19J)
    Steering and transmission 3 Right-hand Drive, automatic
    Model year T 1996
    Build location A Solihull, UK
    Serial Number 342014

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    Thanks everyone for the replies. I have confidence now that all is OK with the vehicle.....don't know why the VIN's use 'B' for 4.0 and 'D' for 4.6.....but seems there is a definite pattern...and not a dodgy P38. I might send an email to calVIN, and ask if they have any idea why some Australian VIN's use a different coding for engine type...and post back here.

    Hopefully I'll be the owner of a 97' P38A by the end of the week!

    Regards,

    Bruce

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucep View Post
    Thanks everyone for the replies. I have confidence now that all is OK with the vehicle.....don't know why the VIN's use 'B' for 4.0 and 'D' for 4.6.....but seems there is a definite pattern...and not a dodgy P38. I might send an email to calVIN, and ask if they have any idea why some Australian VIN's use a different coding for engine type...and post back here.

    Hopefully I'll be the owner of a 97' P38A by the end of the week!

    Regards,

    Bruce
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    19J is the old Turbo diesel engine code - the ones fitted to the 110s in all but Australia in the late 80's before the Tdi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucep View Post
    .....don't know why the VIN's use 'B' for 4.0 and 'D' for 4.6.....but seems there is a definite pattern...and not a dodgy P38. I might send an email to calVIN, and ask if they have any idea why some Australian VIN's use a different coding for engine type...and post back here.

    Hopefully I'll be the owner of a 97' P38A by the end of the week!

    Regards,

    Bruce
    Australia doesn't have different coding to the rest of the world, it's a error with calVIN.

    The VIN can be broken down to work out what car it is. Hence "B" = 4.0, "D" = 4.6.

    BTW, the "T" in the VIN signifies that it's a 1996 MY (model year), not a 1997.
    **Edit: Looking at your information, the car was built in April 1996 but not sold until March 1997.
    Last edited by Scouse; 4th December 2007 at 08:34 AM. Reason: More information added
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