Thread: WW2 qusetions

or the situation that became the Dardenales (sp?) with Turkey joining on the side of Austro-Hungaria and Germany thanks to one Winston Churchill, Minister for (the Navy or War ?) seizing the warships that Turkey had ordered and paid for in British shipbuilding yards.
These ships had been paid for through public subscription by the Turkish people, and Turkey was an ally.

Great thinking there. Opened up a whole new front of war where tens of thousands of Commonwealth and Turkish soldiers died.

Shouldn't we be thanking Hitler as well as hating him??
No Hitler,No Morphiene.

Originally Posted by twitchy

Shouldn't we be thanking Hitler as well as hating him??
No Hitler,No Morphiene.

No we shouldn't be thanking Hitler for Morphine unless he was born in the 18th century, his name was F. W. A. Sertürner and was a pharmacist in 1803.

Although Hitler was a drug addict.

Diana

Originally Posted by twitchy

Shouldn't we be thanking Hitler as well as hating him??
No Hitler,No Morphiene.

should that read
no Hitler, a lot less need for Morphine.

Seems I need to read up, but I thought Hitler was responsible for some major drug advances?????????

Originally Posted by twitchy

Seems I need to read up, but I thought ****ler was responsible for some major drug advances?????????

The scientists forced to work for the Nazi's were, a few good and a lot of bad ones.

Originally Posted by dobbo

The scientists forced to work for the Nazi's were, a few good and a lot of bad ones.

The Germans had some excellent scientists - what did NASA say to the Russians in the 1950's - "Our NAZI rocket scientists are better than your NAZI rocket scientists!

Without checking my facts - (which I try not to do very often) - you could be correct about Bayer Pharmaceuticals developing dia-morphine (commonly referred to as Heroin). They were very advanced with synthesizing amphetamines and much of their research into things like: hypo-thermia and emmersion are the basis for much of the knowledge today. However in the modern world we would never get "ethics" approval to conduct the experiments that were performed by Dr Mengele at Auschwitz.

The research has probabaly saved lives, but one can never excuse or forget the methods that were employed to acquire it.

Diana

Originally Posted by rick130

or the situation that became the Dardenelles with Turkey joining on the side of Austro-Hungaria and Germany thanks to one Winston Churchill, Minister for (the Navy or War ?) seizing the warships that Turkey had ordered and paid for in British shipbuilding yards.
These ships had been paid for through public subscription by the Turkish people, and Turkey was an ally.

Great thinking there. Opened up a whole new front of war where tens of thousands of Commonwealth and Turkish soldiers died.

That was actually much more of a hornet's nest than German reparations ever could become. The Middle East was a relatively stable region in Muslim hands since the end of the 3rd Crusades in the 12th Century under the Ottoman Empire. With the downfall of the Turks at Aust, British and French hands, 700 years of stability was gone. It took a couple of decades after WW1 for the locals to realise that the balance of power had changed forever, and it still hasn't settled, in fact it continues to get worse. The Turks weren't in favour of local rule by the Arabs and could be quite harsh in supressing independence, but it was the Status Quo and everyone accepted it. The British and French who occupied the region after the war though they knew how the tribes could be controlled, but got it deriously wrong.

The one good thing that came out of the Middle East is that despite Australia's pivotal role in the defeat of the Turks, Billy Hughes wanted no part of the Ottoman Empire as reparations, instead settling for the German colonies of Papua, New Britain and New Ireland (New Guinea was already an Aust Territory at the beginning of WW1). Could you imagine the S*** we would be in today if we were responsible for a little slice of the Middle East?