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    Quote Originally Posted by dm_td5 View Post
    Me too.



    See above... nothing to do with Value and Innovation. $85,000 LC200 GXL I reckon will win and even the Tojo owners up here are finding that price tag hard to swallow.

    Of course there's another contender - Hummer H3

    But given Land Rover Australia's marketing abilities... they haven't a chance.
    The motoring organisations put the Hummer ahead of the LandCruiser

    http://www.australiasbestcars.com.au/2007/2007_4wd.pdf

    And the D3 top of the lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrambler View Post
    The motoring organisations put the Hummer ahead of the LandCruiser

    http://www.australiasbestcars.com.au/2007/2007_4wd.pdf

    And the D3 top of the lot
    I drove beside a H3 on the weekend. All black and shiny with what looked about 24" polished wheels .... complete with rubber bands .... looked bloody ridiculous ....

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    Whilst the Hummer has a chance I believe the poor quality and likely lack of durability in the H3 will kill it. It's decidedly low-tech and has pointless detailing that exists only to reinforce the H1-like image. Besides, it is still $60K on road before getting the necessary suspension, lockers and underbody protection. The outward visibility for offroading is ridiculous too. It's a pumped up plastic sports-shoe 4WD in my opinion.

    Is it worth starting a poll - or are we all too biased here for it to be worthwhile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT303 View Post
    You are all dreamin'.200 series will will everything for the next 12 months.Toyota advertisement money will see to it. Pat
    Yes, I would of thought this too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solmanic View Post
    Whilst the Hummer has a chance I believe the poor quality and likely lack of durability in the H3 will kill it. It's decidedly low-tech and has pointless detailing that exists only to reinforce the H1-like image. Besides, it is still $60K on road before getting the necessary suspension, lockers and underbody protection. The outward visibility for offroading is ridiculous too. It's a pumped up plastic sports-shoe 4WD in my opinion.

    Is it worth starting a poll - or are we all too biased here for it to be worthwhile?
    Us, bias? that's just ridiculous.

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    i read on another forum that the LC200 after being loaded with it's seven passengers actually has load capacity that a suzuki jimny. a little impractical for outback touring.
    the jeep wrangler has had anti stall for a few years now, so it's not really an innovation on L.R's part.
    the wrangler with twin lockers may just take the cake. i'd be surprised if the defender gets it, as much as i'd like to see it.
    if advertising dollars come into it, then i think Land Rover will be in with a chance, they have an ad on the back of 4x4 australia and overlander every month. all 3 of the australian mags have staffers that drive land rovers. i think there's 4 in 4x4, 3 or 4 in 4wd action and 2 0r 3 in overlander so we don't have the negativity of previous years
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT303 View Post
    You are all dreamin'.200 series will will everything for the next 12 months.Toyota advertisement money will see to it. Pat


    I agree as well


    After all, a paid actor with a blokey persona wearing an Akubra told me this at this years Sydney motorshow. He also informed us all that the Cruiser is a part of Australian history being that it was an integral part of the snowy mountain scheme.

    So why are we all heading to Cooma then and not the closest Toyota dealer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by barney View Post
    the jeep wrangler has had anti stall for a few years now, so it's not really an innovation on L.R's part.
    the wrangler with twin lockers may just take the cake. i'd be surprised if the defender gets it, as much as i'd like to see it.
    Yes, I know anti-stall has been around a while, but the new Defender's is something else!

    But a Jeep as 4WDOTY? C'mon

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    the new defender's is something else? what is it then?
    anti-stall is anti-stall, all it does is squirt more juice in to keep the engine going under extreme load at low revs via computer.
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    Well the Td5 had anti-stall but I never noticed it working like on the new one. I've got to get used to the new off-road hill-start method which doesn't involve the accelerator. Foot on brake - clutch out - off she goes and then you remember to take your foot off the brake because they just kind of stopped working .

    I know it's the same basic thing, but they have definitely got it tweaked to the point where it's now idiotproof.

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