A crims rights

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Originally Posted by mark2

I can understand your sentiments but the unfortunate reality is that if you are charged as a result of these actions (very likely), you could lose your house to cover the legal defence fees or even your family if you end up in jail. Not to mention the months and years of stress as the case progresses. On the other hand, if you do nothing, the consequences may be just as bad.

The best approach is probably to adopt a 'protect' rather than 'punish' approach.

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I was told once.
Dead men don't lie!

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Originally Posted by THE BOOGER

You dont have to wait untill you are hit before defending your self the threat is enought but you cannot use more than "reasonable force". In nsw you cannot use force to protect property, only yourself or another persons safety. I recently attended course on use of force, you do not have to use equal force you may use enought force to stop an attack but no more. If you do you may be charged with assault, but if they are unable to argue (ie dead) what ever you say goes.

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Having had to learn "basic" self defence the hard way -Taxi driving at nights in Melb- I can say you have the right to defend yourself if you feel threatened. IE it would have been hard to be believed I felt threatened by a fairly drunk 60 year old when i was 25 myself, but if I was 60 and a 25 year old had a go, then I could easily be believed by the police if I whacked someone and said it was in in self defence. Same applies if there were more than one attacker -regardless of age.
I king hit a pretty bug guy in Port Melb who was assaulting a much smaller Taxi driver who had sent out a mayday. The cops gave me a "well done" and that was the end of it. A lot depends on the cops who attend.
BTW just remember the police have seen it all and if they "find" a bashed up victim on your footpath dont be surprised if they want to look at your hands, it happened to me once and my hands were a real mess, luckily they were also still a bit greasy and I invited them to call round to my place and have a look at the Landie I was working on.:angel: See, LR ownership has its perks.:wasntme:

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Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

......................, or lodge brother.

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still happens in the deep north, eh...........:)

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Originally Posted by hook

I was told once.
Dead men don't lie!

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A bloke who was a trainer of patrolmen at Wormald's Security used to tell the trainees that if attacked by an intruder on enclosed premises they should fire a warning shot into the ceiling. It is advisable to shoot the attacker first then fire the warning shot into the ceiling all the while loudly calling out "stop, or I will shoot".

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Originally Posted by 87County

still happens in the deep north, eh...........:)

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Don't think it matters much these days, nor does the co-religionist bit. Certainly did, in the Orange and the Green split communities of the west then.

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Originally Posted by DEFENDERZOOK

if you catch someone in your house....and you belt the crap out of them.....

throw them out on the footpath and then call the cops.....and tell them theres some guy lying
out in the street.....and he looks to be beaten up pretty bad......

and thats all that you know about it........

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My father was told exactly that by the cops, when he surprised some young a'holes trying to break into his place one night. IIRC he also got a couple of broken ribs from a well aimed housebrick as well.



Martyn

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Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

A bloke who was a trainer of patrolmen at Wormald's Security used to tell the trainees that if attacked by an intruder on enclosed premises they should fire a warning shot into the ceiling. It is advisable to shoot the attacker first then fire the warning shot into the ceiling all the while loudly calling out "stop, or I will shoot".

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What goes up, must come down (unless lodged).....

very dangerous

Its illegal to fire a warning shot in nsw as the round has go some where and if you have time to fire warning them you dont need to fire thats the loggic anyway:wasntme: fired twice got him twice first shot was a warning im a baaaad shot:twisted:

At a party one night with my then girlfriend, her ex punched her in the face in front of me - she had left him a month or so earlier because of violence, etc.
At the time I only remember hitting him once, but when the police arrived apparently i was in the front yard with broken knuckles on both hands and washing blood off my doc martins.
The coppers let me sweat it at the station for about an hour before the senior constable took me into the interview room and said,
"You should know that the bloke you belted has a smashed eye socket, jaw and cheekbone, a collapsed lung and six broken ribs. He's been put in ICU, and you should be up for Assault occasioning Grievous Bodily Harm.
Now, we know this bloke though, and I don't think anyone is going to feel too sorry for him, so here's what happens - In a minute the Sargeant is going to come in and turn on that tape recorder. You're going to tell him that when this bloke hit your girl he tried to attack you too, and that at no point were you aware that he no longer posed a threat. You were just defending yourself and your girl, and having never been in this sort of situation before, you didn't ever think to stop. Got it? Good."
I was given a very firm warning.

Hi all i got a chain saw for my birthday, i kept it next to my bed for awhile but wife made me take it outside now its just in a locked spar are few meter from my bed scare the begeebys out of someone me chasing them up the street nude and with the chainsaw screaming.

P.s think better remember a pair of boxers before i do this :o

chers all