Thread: Land Rover Engineer Requires Info

Interesting replies :-)

Here are some from a US LR site.
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Default Re: Land Rover Engineer Requires Info
I think that the thing most of us want on this board is the defender back in North America. Not a new vehicle based off the LR3 and badged as a "new defender." But the current production models with a few upgrades, air bags etc, in order for them to be brought over here again. I know personaly that's the only new Land Rover I'd consider buying off of a dealer lot.
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Car makers tout the off-road capability of a vehicle and throw street tires on it and show it driving down dirt roads. And people buy it anyway...gawd! I know that's just advertising, but where'd they get the idea?

Get rid of the air suspension. If you're too old to get up into your truck, then you need a c-dan. It's a cool selling feature but when one bag goes out, or the whole system goes out...
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1. Solid axles (no independent suspension).
2. Center diff lock.
3. Front and rear diff locks (ones that don't turn off automatically after you reach a certain speed).
4. Manual Transmission (6-speed with a granny low gear and OD 6th would be nice).
5. Absent that a nice 6 speed auto with a granny low and OD 6th would be acceptable - but needs to have a button you can use anytime for full manual control of what gear you're in.
6. Turbo-Diesel engine that makes good power, gets good MPG.
7. Full frame.
8. Fuse box with extra slots to add on things like air compressors, radios, driving lights, etc.
9. Non-sagging headliner (like get it Rhino lined or something - no fabric).
10. Real bumpers - not the plastic garbage. Optional winch bumper setup (not an add on that hangs down in the mud please).
11. Lockable storage spaces, I wish my glove box, center console and side boxes in the rear were lockable.
12. Get rid of all your proprietary OBDII and ABS software and make it available to people who don't want to pay a fortune to the dealer or spend a fortune on aftermarket software and code readers.
13. Lower gears for low range in the transfer case.
14. Factory 35" tires.
15. Beefed front steering.
16. Lastly a Rover that doesn't leak all over the place.
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Defender, Defender, Defender, TDI...
Most of us would be most pleased to see a D90 or 110 on the dealer lot new, not 10 years old and $75,000.
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As you can see, most Land Rover owners are after the same thing

I have probably the singular most important point to make - DONT LET THE CURRY MUNCHERS BUY LANDROVER OR JAG FOR THAT MATTER !.

Also how about a base spec defender, no abs/tc etc, move that bloody handbrake lever already !, an auto for the defender would be nice.

Hi there

This is a very scary post - just imagine if you were interested in purchasing a new Land Rover (you would think twice after reading this post)

There is a few strong points.

1. Lack of dealers.
2. Lack of reliability
3. Lack of advertising
4. Lack of room within the cabs of the Defenders.
5 etc....etc....etc....

I can remember a discussion on the Cooma 60th thread - it took a very long time for Land Rover Australia to become a major sponsor. It amazes my "why" it as it would be huge advertising event for Land Rover in general (this initally was sending a message they really dont care).

In conclussion - Land Rover Australia is at the cross road with there sales numbers dwindling, and they need to pull a rabbit out (you know the rest).

I am hopping this post is not a hoax and they are take notes of the problems and issues, from the people whom admire the Land Rover Heritage and its Future.

Well these are my views.

Wayne

Originally Posted by ellard

This is a very scary post -

not as scary as yours and a couple of others...

Drivers side door, correct?

G'day Lawrence

Welcome to Australian Land Rover Owners online (AULRO.com) may your stay prove fruitful to you if you aren't familiar with the country, here is a little info, England fits into the state of Qld 6 times and that is only one State,and not the biggest, so until the British Senior management do a total clean-out of the 1950's attitude of Australian Management & Attitude, "Take what we give you", E.G. that a customer only enters a Rover Dealership when he/she has decided to purchase a Rover Product the sales will only be minimal in this country, closing dealer and sub-dealerships does not engender customer loyality, the reason that the Japanese and other Oriental vehicles have such a stranglehold on the market is: SERVICE!!!!!! you can buy part and get the vehicles serviced in remote areas, AND they don't just 1 or 2 articles per part No, but when they entered Australia the policy was/is for every 1 vehicle complete entering the country 2 vehicles in spare was stocked

Until Senior Management understand that Sales are Dependent on Service/Spares facilities.

by
Ex Leyland Australia Spare Parts Personell 1965-1980 approx


regards
Uncle Ho

It really makes you wonder . . . with a huge work ute market here, in asia, and in the middle east, how and why Land Rover hasn't addressed it is beyond me. All that money to be made! Millions of dollars!

We just got a new Toyota Landcruiser diesel V8 here at work. It has plenty of power, nice wind-up windows, simple suspension - i.e., no airbags - and while we have our own mechanic here he doesn't have the computer gear he needs for the engine, but that's okay because there's a dealer not too far away. We had to wait 7 months to get this car because they're so popular. When it came time to order this new car last year, there was no discussion about what to get. It would just naturally be a Landcruiser. That's how much they dominate the market share they have.

I wouldn't want to buy one because I don't need such a complicated engine and there's just too much power for part-time four-wheel-drive, but I wouldn't get a new Landie because there's no way I could ever get it fixed, being so far away from any dealer. (Er, is there a dealer in Broome?)

So . . . fix all the stupid things that let the car down: electronics, rear diffs, rusty bits, etc.; build a decent network of dealers who aren't idiots; and actually advertise the Defender.

That last point might help! It's a great time to get back some of the market lost to Toyota.

Sorry, but I can't see this as being a real question placed by Land Rover or one of their representatives.

Who in their right mind would ask for product feedback on a public forum?

So now we currently have LR owners trashing LR and their cars on a public forum that turns up for years in Google searches and will no doubt be linked to by every Nissan and Toyota forum going.

Think about it guys... this is probably a troll... if not, then the guy must be a student / inexperienced LR employee / ex-employee (if he worked for me).

There are proper ways to do this and this is not it.