Thread: Land Rover Engineer Requires Info

Well, I'm going to put my 10 cents worth in.

I LOVE MY LAND ROVER!!

Despite being 30 years old, it performs like a purring tiger.

It's easy to clean out (with a hose), cheap to repair, (nice basic 6 cylinder engine, doing what it's supposed to do), easy to maintain, (just pull off the seats to get to the fuel, top of gearbox, etc), it's manual (easy to jump start), no fancy electronics to go haywire if you get it wet (it's only got 4 fuses), plenty of room (you can sleep in it if you have to), it's convertible (just take the top off), don't worry about denting it (just whack it a few times with a big hammer), Sticks to the road despite what you may put on its feet, (big tyres don't make it dip & sway all over the place), I love the colour scheme (just paint it ourselves when we feel the mood).

And there's not many places it won't go! I'd rather drive the III instead of the Rangie any day of the week!

To add to what I said earlier. In the opinion of myself and many people, the Australian Built 1984-1990 one-ten CSW with a 3.9L Isuzu Diesel (factory fitted) was the best (coil-sprung) Land-Rover made. I will be keeping mine until LR make something which I think is comparable.

The things which made this model great:
A decent sized engine!!! 3.9L 4cyl direct injection truck diesel engine, that may be slow and rattly, but has great torque, great fuel economy, NO TIMING BELT (gears) and lasts a long time (1 million km is not abnormal). EDIT - IME it feels much nicer to drive one of these than a Tdi/TD5 due to all the torque right from idle (there is a turbo version fitted to the 6x6 landies - also OZ only).

It also had a decent strangth gearbox (LT95 or LT85).

And all the things that were better on the county - stronger trailing arms, wider spaced hub bearings, halfshafts that didn't wear out, strong CV joints!!!

It still needed a 24-spline, 6-gear (HYPOID) front diff though.

The 6-speed in the new defender is a great idea, but increase the engine size to something that can compete with the nissans and toyotas over here, and stick some decent axles under it for once.

Originally Posted by D3Jon

I really hope this isn't a wind up, but it just seems so implausible. Lawrence if you are real then accept my apologies, but for now, here I go...

I would like to know what the proof is Camel_Landy... please tell. I'm happy to be wrong on this.

I think it was Incisor who said the email address checks out (used to register on this site I guess). I Can't remember if email is used to verify registration details or not here though. Maybe some more details from those 'in the know' would be good, because I can see forum members are are spending ages writing long detailed posts, I'd hate for all that effort to be in vain.

Has anyone received an email from ORC1? Don't forget of course, that an email can be easily 'sent' from anyone, hell, I could send you an email and make the recipient think it was from Buckingham Palace!! The proof would be in sending an email back to that address and then getting a reply!

I had a quick look on , DISCO3.CO.UK which as a lot of D3 owners will know is the world's premier D3 site, Lawrence said he especially wanted feedback on current models - so how come there's no posts from a Lawrence on there then?

Finally, in conclusion, my'Lud, I think the name gives it away ORC1,

Troll's and Orc's anyone??

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Well if this a wind-up inc and the admins can email this whole thread (before deleting it) to LR HQ so at least it has not been a complete waste of time and some good may come out of it.

so what is the model defender that was made in Aust with the 3.9?

Originally Posted by blitz

so what is the model defender that was made in Aust with the 3.9?

If you are referring to isuzurover's post, it was not a Defender. It was the 110 or One-Ten, whose name was changed to Defender in 1990 after Australian production ceased. It came in 110" as cab/tray, hardtop and wagon and 120" cab/tray, or cab/chassis, and as a 6x6 110/150" cab/chassis or cab/tray. Early models had the LT95 four speed box, (to 86), later models LT85 five speed.

John

Lawrence,

Before I start winging I would like to say that I love Land Rovers. I like the fact that after 60 years they still look like the vehicle they started out as (Defenders at least). I like the fact that all types of people like them and drive them. I used to have a series 3 2.6l petrol which had oodles of character but the other half found to be too hot, too noisy and too bumpy. I then bought the 2004 Xtreme 110. Then she said there was no legroom due to the aircon unit being in the footwell (women).

However,
In oz the dealer network is c**p. From my experience most of them don't know their product well enough or just don't care enough about them to carry out effective timely repairs at reasonable cost. Most of them come out with statements like "we give a manufacturers specification service" but can't produce the check list of what they are supposed to do. But they do charge like they do. For example 40,000km service costs about $850. An 80,000km service cost about $1100. Accorcding to the service sheets I ordered from LR UK the only difference is the intercooler flush, the dealer I went to swore blind that the intercooler flush isn't included in the service and would cost an extra $250. On top of this the car left with an ABS fault caused by the wheel sensor not being installed correctly after they fitted new wheel bearings, the pipes and cables not being secured to the axle, loose prop shaft bolts and loose output flange nut, lubricated suspension bushes???? to stop the loose one from squeeking and a headache from the argument with the service manager over the intercooler flush which they told me was included prior to the 6 hour drive to the dealer.

Even writing and talking to Land Rover Customer care didn't do much for the headache as all they said in response was "You need to take this up with the dealer". Great, I'll just jump in my car and drive the 6 hours back there!

If you want to improve things, get a respectable dealer in every major centre. Fit All terrain tyres. Don't charge more for a cab chassis(with out abs/etc) than a fully equipped station wagon. Sell us pick ups and hard tops. Fit larger fuel tanks. Water proof the electronics correctly (ECM, wabco unit, fuse boxes) so we can wade through those flooded creeks deeper than 500mm. Allow us to buy parts overnight direct from your wharehouse so we don't have to wait for it to be sent overnight to a dealer 300 kms away first.

Land Rover still has good support from users in Australia, why not support us?

Originally Posted by D3Jon

I would like to know what the proof is Camel_Landy... please tell. I'm happy to be wrong on this.

You have mail...

M

Oh, on the Defender, go back to the original hub nuts that can be adjusted in the field.