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    What level of English do our schools teach our youths?

    I've been looking at bicycle forums lately to bring me back up to speed on the current technology.

    What has stunned me is that many forum members appear to be our young people with a passion for cycling but a lack of English skills. I'm far from being an English language expert but...

    Quoted below is a reply post from a Uni student :

    "I ride my bike (2003 kona stuff) to uni pretty much every day. Ive spent bout 100 bucks on locks. I bought thick cable steel reinforced locks and i keep it at uni chained to the bike posts. There are 2 of em there.
    I dun carry it around with me coz simply they are too heavy. (literately each one is like a 1kg each. they are visually strong AND structuring.)

    If u commute regularly to work or school or uni keep ur locks there. Spend sum dosh on being safe , ie the locks rather then buying a new bike wen sum loser steals it.

    Since ive started doing it about every second bike stand has sum1's lock on it. I use two. One for the frame and the front whell and one thru the back wheel and my frame.
    Ive got tuff neck hubs. there is no way im gonna let them go.
    AS for the seat. Just bring it with u. u might look like a dork but id rather be a dork for a few hours rather then be a real dork riding without a sit and the risk of injury to me gonad.....geez no WAY! [IMG]http://forums.****in.net/images/smilies/eek.gif[/IMG]

    Anyhowz I have a bike am proud of it and will ride it. I know that sum punks want it, seen them loitering around. The locks have worked a treat so far. AND for the realli paranold have HEAPS of locks. At the end of the day locks are an investment not a lost. Face it. I aight gonna throw my locks away."

    I can understand that the new generation do a lot of SMS texting and shorten words but this is certainly not a SMS message. I think we should be worried.

    Chris

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    You don't need to go as far as a cycling forum to see this. Try the Australian 4WD Action Forum.
    Cheers .........

    BMKAL


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    Ok.
    In high school, I had one lesson on grammar. Ever.
    That was in year 9.

    Spelling and grammar don't seem to matter as much as exploring texts* in relation to their contexts and developing an understanding of the effects of context and questions of value. (brutalised from my NSW HSC English Syllabus)

    In other words, you're going to write BS anyway, so who cares how you spell it!!



    Ok, rant off.

    The other thing to note is that a lot of Australian slang came about as a verbal shortening of words; it would appear that with the internet, forums, and keyboard use, this is a way of developing a shorter language.
    Also, it is reasonably informal, I bet that the same person would use different spellings in something more formal.



    P.S. As a uni student who rides his bike, 1 lock works fine on a 30y.o. bike that breaks down more often than a landy!

    * a text isn't just a book or play. Pictures count too!!

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    I'm on a few cycling forums and 4x4 forums. The general level of literacy on all of them is pretty woeful, but some of the school kids are completely unintelligible. They also have a habit of "post whoring", putting up hundreds of pointless comments and stretching threads on and on for no reason.

    People get very touchy about it though. If you try to ask people to run spell check before posting, you risk a torrent of abuse and people assume that you bat for the other team

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    I blame Texting - you want to see some of the Resumes we get with txt language in them!!!
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    Aside from the last paragraph, where the poster used 'lost' for 'loss' and 'aight' for who-knows-what, it seems like most of it is txt style abbreviations.

    I'd count that as informed breaking of the rules rather than a lack of literacy, which to me would count as literate to a greater extent than someone who can't create a grammatical sentence or spell correctly.

    Cheers
    Simon

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    I know what you mean PCH and it concerns me too. Some times it is not actually possible to understand what someone has written and that annoys me no end.

    Xav

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_S View Post
    . They also have a habit of "post whoring", putting up hundreds of pointless comments and stretching threads on and on for no reason.

    Check out the "stars" thread here...

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    Presumably the school has taught him/her a level of English sufficient for him/her to spell words like:

    reinforced
    visually
    regularly
    loitering
    investment


    but apparently not:
    literally

    I don't think what the kid was taught at school has much to do with the trendy, lazy, inconsiderate way he/she has used the language in that post.

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    I coont see nufink rong, he juss cun spel.

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