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    Defender owner changes a Jeep stop light globe!

    Please don't tell anyone, but my son-in law drives an older Jeep Cherokee (the shame of it all!).

    We call it "The Boat" because it pitches, tosses and yaws in choppy conditions and the steering wheel acts more like a rudder - you don't drive around corners, you tack. This Jeep treats driver turns on the steering wheel more like suggestions rather than commands. (And before anyone replies saying the steering is worn, it has always been like that. The steering works but needs plenty of advance notice).

    That's all beside the point. Yesterday they asked me to replace a stop light globe "Can you please do it - you know all about 4WDs?". Easy! ...well not quite. I opened the tail gate, but couldn't find any obvious way of removing the lens, no screws, no slots, no cunning little lugs. Eventually I realised that I had to undo FOUR 10mm bolts - well actually only three because fortunately the inaccessible bottom bolt was missing.

    Then they asked me to change a headlight globe. That was even more unreasonably difficult. Why do you have to partially disassemble a car just to change a globe?

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    same on the disco 2

    4 screws from the outside then about 7 or 8 screws to get the back off the lens so you can change the globe.... at least i know its unlikely that they lens will get water in it!

    thanks

    Steve

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    Ever changed a bulb in the tail light of a Disco1?

    Made even worse if it is a 6 or 7 seater.

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    ........or if the water gets in, at least it won't get out again

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    To change a stop/rear light on the disco involved removing 9 philips screws.

    To do the same on the defender is two screws.

    Suppose that is progress (or not)

    I seem to remember that an 8 mm bolt has a shear strength of 1.6 tonnes, which would put shear strength of a 10 mm bolt at 2+ tonnes

    You could safely suspend a J56p from 4 10 mm bolts but there again that is probably American progress

    Regards


    Brendan

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    bulbs

    Just another reason why i love my 110.2 Screws

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    I reckon by 10mm bolts he means 10mm head! so 6mm not 10mm shank!

    Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patto2980 View Post
    Just another reason why i love my 110.2 Screws
    Why are there any screws?


    This is a fast moving part and provides part of the safety equipment on the vehicle. Is there any wonder why there are vehicles running around with faulty lighting.

    When will some car makers get this together?

    BTW: In my opinion the Defender has some of the worst lighting on any current model. Far too small by current comparitive standards. In fact the Series 2a had better, larger lighting with the Wipac lenses, but alas still requiring screws to change a globe.
    Last edited by Lotz-A-Landies; 10th March 2008 at 10:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diego Luego View Post
    Please don't tell anyone, but my son-in law drives an older Jeep Cherokee (the shame of it all!).

    We call it "The Boat" because it pitches, tosses and yaws in choppy conditions and the steering wheel acts more like a rudder - you don't drive around corners, you tack. This Jeep treats driver turns on the steering wheel more like suggestions rather than commands. (And before anyone replies saying the steering is worn, it has always been like that. The steering works but needs plenty of advance notice).

    That's all beside the point. Yesterday they asked me to replace a stop light globe "Can you please do it - you know all about 4WDs?". Easy! ...well not quite. I opened the tail gate, but couldn't find any obvious way of removing the lens, no screws, no slots, no cunning little lugs. Eventually I realised that I had to undo FOUR 10mm bolts - well actually only three because fortunately the inaccessible bottom bolt was missing.

    Then they asked me to change a headlight globe. That was even more unreasonably difficult. Why do you have to partially disassemble a car just to change a globe?
    Loved the story of the Jeep

    A lot of vehicles are that difficult to change the tail light globes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonMcGr View Post
    ...A lot of vehicles are that difficult to change the tail light globes.
    Ron

    Lots of models may have similar difficulties, but it shouldn't be so.

    You may laugh, but years ago when I bought my first and only 2 wheel drive, a 1980 Chrysler Sigma (yes new - my brother worked for the dealer) the globes on that were a snap to change all accessed from inside the boot or bonnet, no screws.

    With CAD of cars these days it shouldn't take any more than a minute to change any globe. They just have to add that parameter to the profile.

    Diana
    Last edited by Lotz-A-Landies; 10th March 2008 at 11:17 AM. Reason: grammar

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