Thread: Diesel prices!

Originally Posted by waynep

There's growing pressure on the Govt to look at how the FBT tax is related to km. ( currently, the more kms you do per year, the lower your FBT tax rate )
There's thinking in some circles it should be the other way round given the emphasis on reducing greenhouse gases, conserving worlds resources blah blah blah ....
You have this ridiculous situation of people going on long trips close to 30 June for no real reason, just so they click over into a lower tax rate.
I think the basic concept of novated leases and salary sacrifice will remain. ( but who knows )


As for diesel prices, if all diesel owners took a few minutes to write to the ACCC, your local media, and motoring organisations, it may get some more visibility.

Easy to have moan on here but how serious are you about doing something about it ?
I don't think the peeps that have the power to make a difference read this forum,

Thats a shame. Sydney return is 500km for me, and I love putting km's on these cars instead of my own.

Originally Posted by waynep

There's growing pressure on the Govt to look at how the FBT tax is related to km. ( currently, the more kms you do per year, the lower your FBT tax rate )
There's thinking in some circles it should be the other way round given the emphasis on reducing greenhouse gases, conserving worlds resources blah blah blah ....
You have this ridiculous situation of people going on long trips close to 30 June for no real reason, just so they click over into a lower tax rate.
I think the basic concept of novated leases and salary sacrifice will remain. ( but who knows )

That would be good, I only do about 8,000km a year. Although I'm going to do more than that in one month later this year.

I did Melbourne to Brisbane recently in a friends new Civic, and was amazed at the fuel usage! It runs on standard unleaded, and sitting at 110km/h (@2200RPM) it was using just over 5L/100kms. It cost a total of 3 tanks for the whole trip, including running around sydney.

With all this diesel hype, the new petrol engines can be very good too.

Cheers!

What I dont understand is how fuel economy hasnt got even better still. 5L/100 is awesome but my wifes 1991 1.6L carbie fed corrolla with 325,000km on gets 6.7L/100 round town... surely with all the development and gizmos available we should be getting half that amount 17 years on?????

s

Went down to sydney last week, fueled up in casino, got down there using just over a quarter of a tank as per the gauge.( 150 ltr long range tank) drove around for a few days visiting and the like. then decided to take no 1 son to canberra. to see the AWM.
Thought hell the diesel prices were a bit stiff, so drove around the corner from my parents place at matraville to see a 7/11 ( bunnerong rd, near franklin st) with diesel at 151.9, so i popped in a filled up, 93 litres for 920 km of driving not bad. Went to canberra and back the next day and decided to go back and see if the price was up , nope it was still the same, so put in 53 litres for 520 odd km of driving. Quizzed the bloke at teh consol about the price he reckoned it was the price he was told to put up and that it was old stock. I don;t know what old stock diesel is but it worked fine,
the disco still returns a good mileage, nearly as good as the pajero i had.
I still can;t work this pricing thing out,
perhaps the experts can explain ,
when the oil companies buy oil for refining do they pay for it, or is it on loan until it is sold to the consumer. This daily up and down pricing doesn;t make sense to me. They either buy it at one price or they don;t.

They talk about the supply and demand for oil and that dicatates the price, i think I read there is a low supply and a high demand. Is it being artificially inflated to satisfy the oil nations?

When i was working over in the desert country that is floating on oil, they recalculated the reserves and the estimate, from memory is triple what they originally calculated. But there is less oil being pumped and moved out of the country then when sadams regime was in power. A plot or plan ??? any thoughts?

john

Originally Posted by roverrescue

What I dont understand is how fuel economy hasnt got even better still. 5L/100 is awesome but my wifes 1991 1.6L carbie fed corrolla with 325,000km on gets 6.7L/100 round town... surely with all the development and gizmos available we should be getting half that amount 17 years on?????

s

If you would be prepared to buy a car that got no stars in crash testing, and accelerated to 100 in 18 seconds or greater, and could convince about 100 000 other people a year to buy one... that could be easily arranged.



Your family... you choose.

Chinese car crash test.. probably equivalent to 1991 corolla.

YouTube - New Chinese Car Crash Test Disaster - 2007 Brilliance BS6

Audi A3 crash test. Note not even a roof ripple and all doors could be opened normally afterwards. This car averages 30 - 47 mpg and is significantly bigger than a 1991 corolla.

YouTube - Crash Test 2006 - Present Audi A3 Hatchback IIHS

It's probably better if I don't start on the side impact tests...

Originally Posted by roverrescue

What I dont understand is how fuel economy hasnt got even better still. 5L/100 is awesome but my wifes 1991 1.6L carbie fed corrolla with 325,000km on gets 6.7L/100 round town... surely with all the development and gizmos available we should be getting half that amount 17 years on?????

s

The motors do have twice the power though

My missus owned a VR V6 Dunnydore....Was getting to the stage it was starting to cost a bit in repairs not to mention fuel....She drives Rowville to Carlton and back everyday and will soon be Narre Warren to Carlton.

We traded it in on a new Kia Rio.....what an awesome little car with all the bells and whistles....35 litres=530klms city driving...the commodore used twice the amount of fuel plus more!

We recently drove from Pakenham to Cann River and it used 23 litres.
We rarely take the Defender away now and plan our holidays around taking the Kia