MTB Haters

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Originally Posted by dobbo

Isn't that attempted murder?

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Probably (technically) not. But if she killed someone, she would likely go for manslaughter, which still attracts a life sentence.

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Originally Posted by Dave_S

What she was doing is illegal - simple as that. She was almost certainly in breach of the applicable Criminal Code, various environmental and land management laws and possibly local government regulations.

To make sure these people are prosecuted you need hard evidence. I usually carry a small digital camera and a phone. You take photos of them and what they have done, then call the police from the location and ask whether they want to come out. If they don't, ask who to email the photos to and where you can make a statement.

Any group with the word "Against" in its name is usually a hate group with a vigilante mentality and no real organisation. In a way they are handy, as you can use them to show that the people who oppose you are crackpots and criminals.

Up here in Brisbane, mountain biking is gaining acceptance and lots of trails are shared by walkers, horses and bikes. Many trails are officially sanctioned as MTB only. I can't help thinking that if it weren't for the fact that so many different interest groups want to enjoy the bush, most of it would quickly be bulldozed by developers.

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What Dave said (this ^ man is a lawyer so we can't show you his face on television).

Police have case 'in hand'. But somehow I don't think that will be the end of the vandalism to the track. My predictions will be: no more twine across track but heaps of roots, boulders.... this person is on a vendetta.

I have seen a few guys taken out with a wire.

if the wire contacts the upper chest it forces the body back until the wire rides up to the neck, slicing though usually just above the voice box, taking out the wind pipe and a couple of major arteries, as the body moves further back, the head sill wants to travel forward, the wire then cuts its way up behind the jaw, now the head whiplashes back to past 180 deg, the wire is lodged behind the jaw, ripping out the jaw and sometimes ripping the flesh of the victims face, cheeks and brow up to and into the hairline, where the skin is a bit thinner and tends to rip off the scalp at that point, some times the top lip and nose is left in place some times not. personally I think a vigilante response is warranted on sick people like this. Leaving stones rubble on the tack as a hindrance is one thing; string up a wire is attempted indiscriminate murder. No different to killing the first Chinese, black, white or Jew that you see. Only in this case its kill the first rider. Fortunately if some one was to attempt to kill the first Chinese, black, white or Jew, the cops would be all over it. But in this case I assume they don’t really give a toss.

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Originally Posted by Dave_S

Probably (technically) not. But if she killed someone, she would likely go for manslaughter, which still attracts a life sentence.

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Why not? It took thought and action, planing and intent = premeditated murder.

sorry not biting at you Dave, i assume it just hasint been argued that way before

Hi Clean32,
A decision re murder/manslaughter can only be decided in a criminal court on a case-by-case basis. Ad hoc interpretations have no basis.

Best Wishes,