Thread: Heart vs. Head? (Defender or Rubicon?)

Originally Posted by scarry

paul,
why dont you try another dealer....

Yup think I will. I have a few choices in Melb. (unlike many areas of aus!)
I guess it's the reality of how Ford dragged Land Rover down to their level. I think the TATA change can only improve things.

I'm composing email to LRA as we speak (write?).

Look , I probably am being a bit precious over the salespersons performance...up to second glass of red and not so p15sed off now.

As far as sales went and on Echidna's point. I got the cold shoulder even know I was going to buy that day I walked in and I even got a snide comment when I had payed about how he [the salesperson] was not going to make much off it.

IF it was a RR I sure doubt I would of heard any of that crap.

Xav

Just remember who towed what out of the bush in last years 4x4 of the year test.I think the lockers are just a way around poor suspension and on longer trips you would arrive in better health in the fender than jeep.My 2 cents Pat

Originally Posted by Sleepy

....yeah I did want a date, a coffee and he's paying...
.

I love it!

never bought a new car myself and highly unlikely to ever do so either...

like others, I'll be keeping my 110 4BD1 until it's beyond repair or diesel is no longer available or my son inherits it!

Originally Posted by EchiDna

I'll be keeping my 110 4BD1 until it's beyond repair

If only I could convince my lease company that a 20year old county is a worthwhile investment I would get myself an isuzu and join you.(Couple of nice ones for sale at the moment!) Damn rules don't let me get anything over 8 yo.

Bumped in to a couple of Rubicon/jeep crew late last year.Not much water in the bush last year,but they had the shammy out, tight shirts, hair gell, raybans and no draft beer in there esky!.Kind of reminded me of the original camel man, but no smokes!!.
Know what I mean.

I look at Jeeps and I think that they have all of the good stuff.

Lower low range
Diff locks
5 link front and rear suspension

etc etc etc

Then when you look under it you realise how much the jeep engineers have completely ****ed up what should be a really good design.

Panhards are shaped liked a drop noodle which makes them incredibly weak. Suspension links are only as long as my ****... thats right, no more than 12" (roughly) which gives poor geometry when lifting the ride height and articulating. They run slip yolks on the transfer, not uni joint flanges, from what I remember the construction is poor (Not saying Defenders dont come from the factory pre-dented either!)

I think the Jeeps look good on paper, but the execution of it's build probably closely followed the execution of the designing engineer.

Thanks Slunnie,

I think this is what I need.
"Follow the force Luke, Don't be lured to the dark side!"
As mentioned above the suspension will be something I will look at more closely. I have a few months to make my mind up so, like most things, I'll ponder a bit longer.

Originally Posted by Slunnie

Suspension links are only as long as my ****...

P.S. Does the suspension shrink in the cold weather too????