Thread: Heart vs. Head? (Defender or Rubicon?)

Back to the thread.
(And thanks again for the interest and input)

It would be easy for us to let this thread degenerate into a Defender vs. J**P thread. Defender would easily win. (Although on the J**P forum the Rubicon would probably win )

I know you guy/gals love your deefers - me too. My question is does the J**P compare. I think we have answered that. Yes it does compare. Let's face it - every 4wd is a compromise. Overhang, gearing, economy, durability, noise levels, comfort, rampover, clearance, vision, safety... It's all about what do you want to compromise and what do you need the vehicle for.

I have always felt the deefer has the best compromise for me, its great no question. Others will have their preferred vehicle (We could have a similar argument with Disco vs. Cruiser or Xtrail vs. Freelander). Now I am convinced that I will add the J**P into the equation. Not that it is better or worse but it IS worth considering.

Originally Posted by Sleepy

Others will have their preferred vehicle (We could have a similar argument with Disco vs. Cruiser or Xtrail vs. Freelander).

There would be no similar argument. The Disco would win hands down.

We all make our vehicle choices because of what we either want/like/perceive to be the best for us. Whether this is the best vehicle or not is largely irrelevant. I like the Jeep adage...."It's a Jeep thing"........ I've used this analogy in the past to explain my choice of vehicle.

What you want ......... is what you'll get. And good luck whichever way you go.

Originally Posted by Sleepy

I know you guy/gals love your deefers - me too. My question is does the J**P compare. I think we have answered that. Yes it does compare. Let's face it - every 4wd is a compromise. Overhang, gearing, economy, durability, noise levels, comfort, rampover, clearance, vision, safety... It's all about what do you want to compromise and what do you need the vehicle for.

Paul
You're spot on! Not forgetting appearance - and I just happen to like both!

You know what you want the vehicle for and what you like about each - in the end I am sure you will make the right decision - whichever it is, because it's your choice for your reasons! And that's what it's about...

While broadly similar in execution the D90 and Wrangler have different intentions. The D90, imho, is designed for a number of 4WD applications - military/commercial/recreational. The Wrangler is almost exclusively a recreational 4WD - but if you look at the US sites - a very capable and successful one. (Give me a sec while I put on my flame-proof suit.

And Mil-spec isn't always best - from what I gather the H1 is a bloody awful rock/trail crawler - but stick it in the middle of Desert Storm and it's a ripper!

BTW - Xsi - nice rig! Looks like Moss Green same as mine, but yours already looks pretty much like I want mine to!
Cheers
Mike

Fantastic input from all. I think this was an argument worth having. (We could probably end it here or we'll start going around in circles....donuts?).
Holden vs. Ford, Nissan vs. Cruiser, Yamaha vs. Kawasaki, AFL vs. NRL, Clinton vs Obama.
There is no correct answer. It really is each to his own.

Head 13 Heart 13

It's a draw. Now for the penalty shoot out

Originally Posted by Sleepy

Head 13 Heart 13

It s a draw. Now for the penalty shoot out

Penalty shoot out question is this:

"I just want one".... apart from an HSV where the phrase was taken from, which of the 2 selected 4WD's came into your head first?

Slunnie,

Yeah pretty obvious isn't it?

Just over a year ago I had one Landy - my pride and joy D90. Made me smile every time I drove it - still does.
Then the missus worthless Magna died. "Hey darling what about this one?". Soon became a Disco and Deefer family
Then came the mid life crisis - "I know I'll get a S11 to restore".
Now that I have three Land Rovers I am not so worried about going back to two.
(Puts on flameproof suit, presses send and assumes the crash position.)

Originally Posted by Sleepy

Slunnie,

Yeah pretty obvious isn't it?

Just over a year ago I had one Landy - my pride and joy D90. Made me smile every time I drove it - still does.
Then the missus worthless Magna died. "Hey darling what about this one?". Soon became a Disco and Deefer family
Then came the mid life crisis - "I know I'll get a S11 to restore".
Now that I have three Land Rovers I am not so worried about going back to two.
(Puts on flameproof suit, presses send and assumes the crash position.)

Easy .. get rid of the Disco and the SII, get the new four door Wrangler and keep the D90. Wrangler is refined enough for the wife to drive and you get to play with it over the weekend. You will be happy with the Wrangler BUT you will sure as hell miss the D90. Discos are like Toyotas, you don't get attached to them like you do with a Defender! ;o) (Trying to deflect the flames from you Sleepy!)

P.S: If not .. shoot me a PM when you decide to sell the D90.