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    Quote Originally Posted by mcrover View Post
    This is exactly why I am so against using equipment that is not is good condition or incorrectly due to lack of training.

    After you have trained them and made shure what they are using is at the best it could be then it is all up to them.

    I have to disagree that a Chainsaw is not as dangerous as a simple stanley knife, I think you will find the difference is in the percentage of people that use the knife over the saw that makes it look just as deadly.

    My whole job is based around OH&S and keeping machinery up to the best level possible to keep them safe as #1 and on cut a close #2.

    I grew up on a farm and have seen some horrendous things including someone being pulled into a PTO so I dont need to go visit a few more to make my mind clear on this.

    The Golfcourse maintenance industry was the same as the rest of the agricultural industry back only 5 or so years ago and after a couple of major injuries, 1 where a guy got his leg caught in a scarifier on one of our courses, and workcover went ballistic.

    It was his fault as he should have never been close to the machine but after going through the shed with a fine tooth comb and looking for records for machine maintenance etc the whole industry decided to have a bit of a shake up.

    The course I work for now is a lot more OH&S concious than most and tat is due to the boss being as anal as I am about it that we have pushed the level up a bit higher which all helps to impoove it across industry but there are still sheds more organised than ours which is our next challenge.

    Ive had to learn the hard way about these sort of dangers, Ive seen a leg that has been hit with a saw when the bloke starting it did the dredded drop start and lost a chunk of his knee cap for it and Ive seen photo's of a blokes head after standing over the cut when the saw kicked back and scalped the right side of his head and nearly lost his ear.

    Ive seen pics of a blokes guts hanging out because he hit a railway spike that greenies had driven into the trees to stop them from being cut down and the chain broke and wrapped around him, granted that war a 36" saw and about 200cc but the system is the same for all.

    They are bloody dangerous and you cant EVER brush that off and get complacent about that.

    Oh and if your using a stanley knife, always cut away from you
    Fair enough. I now understand your position being in OHS and respect your opinion. I am in Emergency services so have seen the results of a lot of incidents and rarely see chainsaw injuries.
    I still dont think pricing should be the concern, more education and possibly including ppe in packages. as said chainsaws rarely kill, they do maim however. personally I would not want to be maimed so would use PPE. I think we have gone a bit off track, it should not be about the price of something but about the ability to use it safely.
    For the record I have a $160 Mculloch from Bunnings and though I would like a decent still could not justify the extra expense for what it is intended and has been used for. Yes I have PPE. I have also seen may people using $1000 plus saws without ppe or all ppe. This is why I believe pricing is irrelevant. I would even go as far as to suggest for normal small cuts most do not use chaps. I know on occassion I have not which even in my mind is silly.
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    as i'm still waiting for a reply over a reported post

    if you want to go personal lets .........

    your talking about OH&S issues
    how about we go with you and the missus camping in a RTT with no stabling bars on a D1
    Quote Originally Posted by mcrover View Post
    Yes Ray, we know you bought a chainsaw, now go out and buy some PPE before you hurt yourself or someone else..........

    You still dont get it, everyone can afford a $100 chainsaw but the problem is if your on a budget your not then going to go and add earmuffs, goggles and chaps of safety pants which is another couple of hundred dollars over your $100 chainsaw.

    If your paying $1000 for a saw, you are more than likely aware that you need all the other stuff as well if you dont have it already.

    We all have seen the photo's of you at Stones with a saw in shorts and t shirt with no goggles or muffs doing your best impression of someone who doesnt like all his limbs so we all then know that you dont really care much for PPE and more than likely wouldnt ware it unless forced to but the truth is, these things shouldnt be this cheap so that inexperienced and daft people will buy them and clog up our hospitals.

    I find it irresponsible but you will hold the complete opposite opinion just because thats what you do so go on Ray, reply in your most disagreeable way, makes for plenty of hits to this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiline View Post
    as i'm still waiting for a reply over a reported post

    if you want to go personal lets .........

    your talking about OH&S issues
    how about we go with you and the missus camping in a RTT with no stabling bars on a D1
    Go have another beer Ray.......You have officially lost it......

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcrover View Post
    Go have another beer Ray.......You have officially lost it......

    yep i do on Friday nights and Saturday nights
    i have commits with my kids and others kids with footy training
    unlike some that sit a keyboard warrior at every chance they get

    try go back through most sections of the forum and see what crap you type

    no wonder you were kicked out of Merrigig

    you see mcrover you know how this forum games works
    go into a thread any thread will do cause havoc and it gets deleted

    as in this thread .............

    Last edited by Pedro_The_Swift : 23rd June 2008 at 05:34 PM. Reason: To keep the peace.

    gee i wonder why
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numpty's Missus View Post
    I dunno Crump. I was beginning to think it was about testosterone and who is holier than who (or is that thou)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiline View Post
    yep i do on Friday nights and Saturday nights
    i have commits with my kids and others kids with footy training
    unlike some that sit a keyboard warrior at every chance they get

    try go back through most sections of the forum and see what crap you type

    no wonder you were kicked out of Merrigig

    you see mcrover you know how this forum games works
    go into a thread any thread will do cause havoc and it gets deleted

    as in this thread .............

    Last edited by Pedro_The_Swift : 23rd June 2008 at 05:34 PM. Reason: To keep the peace.

    gee i wonder why

    Ummmmm I dont know where you got that I was ever kicked out of Merrijig, I dont go up there much anymore due to my Mum is traveling most of the time and I never really hung around with the cousins and stuff as they are about 15years older than me as I have told you and Gav before.

    I still have gone up to take the kids Motor bike riding, I normally go to the Rodeo (but missed it this year) so I really dont know what your on about.

    I have though been booted from the Merrijig Pub for having too much of a good time but thats a different FUNNY story, I might be wrong that must be what your thinking of Ray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiline View Post
    as i'm still waiting for a reply over a reported post

    if you want to go personal lets .........

    your talking about OH&S issues
    how about we go with you and the missus camping in a RTT with no stabling bars on a D1
    I dont know that a reply will be forth coming, as I think I speak for all the Mods in saying we are sick of this constant "he said, he said bull crap!".Perhaps ignoring your constant (both of you) reported posts may be the answer?
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    Another thread gone to **** lmao!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcrover View Post

    If your paying $1000 for a saw, you are more than likely aware that you need all the other stuff as well if you dont have it already.
    I don't agree with this statement, just because you have the money to buy a $1000 chainsaw, doesn't mean you have common sense.

    Your assuming that the person that can only afford a cheap chainsaw won't use saftey gear, that's a big assumption on your part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redback View Post
    I don't agree with this statement, just because you have the money to buy a $1000 chainsaw, doesn't mean you have common sense. [COLOR="Red"]

    Your assuming that the person that can only afford a cheap chainsaw won't use saftey gear, that's a big assumption on your part.

    Baz.
    Fair statement, Although it was a sweeping genralisation i stand by my comment. In the end a $1000 chainsaw can produce the same result as a $99.00 when an accident occurs.

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