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Like jakeslouw I enjoy what has been shown and I look forward to the times that your photo's appear.Quote:
Originally Posted by jakeslouw
I am also unlikely to ever see any of those sites and these photographs are a window into another world for me.
A heart felt thankyou for your efforts in sharing those sights with us.
Yep, another one who loves seeing places I may never visit.
Mind you, I am hatching a punning clan to eventually just wander off indefinitely one day, when it all comes together...:angel:
No photos here...but this story, has held my attention since I learnt about it when I first came to Mozambique:
New inquiry into Samora Machel air crash opened - City Press
Here is a paper by an Australian academic who has very much studied the region:
http://www.africanstudies.uct.ac.za/...assination.pdf
We all need to know the truth, let us hope that the truth can rise, in spite of the personal and powerful interests that have undoubtedly played their parts in what happened.
Of great interest will be the role that Graca Machel will play, previously the wife of President Samora Machel and now, the wife of Nelson Mandela; the only women to be the wife of Presidents in two different countries. A very human lady though.
Yet again we say thanks for posting, BBC......
That article by Robinson appears to be well researched, has he or any other journalist had anything else about the matter published more recently?
While the accident report referred obviously reached the usual conclusion as to cause, it does seem that it is a long bow to draw to suggest that the specific setting up of a sus VOR beacon was the real cause.
The body of the article seems to have a quite a summary of the prior political prequel and I will read it fully and digest it with interest later in the day.
thanks again - and all the best for the Christmas season to you and your family from all of us
(if you get a chance a summary of how Christmas is celebrated there would be interesting)
87County,
I cannot say what has been the genesis of Zuma's announcement of the new inquiry.
Have a read of the paper and you will access a quite a few perspectives. The paper is more about the political side of what had happened in Maputo to the point that Machel had become such an isolated leader.
It is not just about what happened regarding the airplane crash (the original inquiry addressed the 'technical' aspects), it is more the relationships that existed then, and still continue, within the constantly evolving political landscape.
The fluidity of power and influence across this continent...it needs a movie.
The debate around the Samora Machel crash pops up every now & than, fuelled mostly by the ANC spin-mongerers. The fact is that two separate commissions of inquiry, initiated by two different ruling regimes, has found that there is no conclusive evidence that there were any issues with beacons.
In fact, I am on several SADF veteran mailing groups, and all indications are that the Russian flight crew screwed up and crashed the plane. Full stop.
The first commission was lead by Judge Cecil Margo who was by all reports a very moral, independent judge. If there had been any suspicion of wrong-doing, it would have been in his report. He had no love for the old Apartheid National Party, and wouldn't have covered up for them.
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Margo"]Cecil Margo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
Hi BBC
Just wanted to say thanks for this thread. My mum was born in Nairobi & met my dad in Dar. At the yacht club apparently.
Mum's parents told fabulous stories of East Africa, & being of the Out of Africa generation they had a LOT. They knew a nunber of the characters in that memoir, including the Blixens. I can remember them going to see the film & Granny being quite nervous about how it would be. She said afterwards that they'd actually done a pretty decent job & not hollywood-ised it too much.
It's somewhere I've always hankered to go & see for myself, even though I know the East Africa of my parents & grandparents no longer exists, & this thread really brings it alive for me.
Thanks very much & I hope to see much more.
One question, does Dar es Salam still have many carved Arabic doors? I've seen some pictures belonging to my family & they looked absolutely awesome pieces of art.
Ratel10mm,Quote:
Originally Posted by Ratel10mm
Yes. The carved Arab doors are highly valued. One of the Directors of one our parents companies who resides in Dar has a collection of them, that I saw when I visited his house for dinner one night. About 20.
Was interesting to also see the timber that much of the furniture in his house was made of....Jarrah. Old railway sleepers that had been recovered. Apparently a lot of WA timber made it's way to east coast Africa. Have heard of the same in Zimbabwe.
And...I have had a Kilimanjaro or 2,3,4..., at the place where your Mum & Dad met.
Just the sort of thing you will need to buy, as you are getting on a bus!!
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...012/12/505.jpg
Oh well, at least there are not goats, chickens or pigs among the luggage :D
If we do not catch up with you before the 24 , we wish you an awesome 2013, fantastic and safe Xmas.
You take care mate.