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5th July 2008, 08:39 PM
#1
Td5
gurday all,
Just wanted to know a little more about my Td5 -
- were they designed in England?
- were they built in England?
- were they exclusive to the Land Rover Disco and defender?
Cheers
Caine
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5th July 2008, 08:41 PM
#2
yes
yes
yes

And the Germans approved it.
Cheers
Slunnie
~ Discovery II Td5 ~ Discovery 3dr V8 ~ Series IIa 6cyl ute ~ Series II V8 ute ~
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5th July 2008, 08:43 PM
#3
Here is an interesting read on its development.
www.slunnie.com - LROI TD5 article
Cheers
Slunnie
~ Discovery II Td5 ~ Discovery 3dr V8 ~ Series IIa 6cyl ute ~ Series II V8 ute ~
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5th July 2008, 08:45 PM
#4
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5th July 2008, 09:01 PM
#5
From January 1999, the Land Rover Defender range was fitted as standard for most markets with the new Td5 diesel engine. The Discovery Series II was also fitted with the Td5 from launch in January 1999.
The five cylinder direct injection turbo diesel intercooled engine started by Rover Group in 1993 as part of their development of a range of 4, 5, and 6 cylinder diesel engines to meet all Rover and Land Rover diesel engine requirements. This new range of engines was loosely based upon the L-series 4 cylinder engine, at that time used in the Freelander and various Rover cars.
When BMW bought Rover Group in 1994, the 5-cylinder project's continuation was approved ( already mentioned by Slunnie ), to replace the Tdi in the Discovery and Defender.
The project was already under way before BMW's takeover, and so contrary to popular belief, the Td5 is in fact a Rover design, not a BMW one. Before starting on project 'Storm', as the Td5 was known during development, Rover's engineers undertook a huge review of competitor's engines, designs and manufacturing practices. The lessons learnt were combined with Rover Group's already extensive experience with the 200 and 300 Tdi and the Rover L-series diesel engines.
In Defender specification, the Td5 develops 122 bhp (120 PS, 90 kW) at 4200 rpm, and in the Discovery this is upped to 136 bhp (134 PS, 101 kW) at 4200 rpm by use of a different fuelling map and an electronic
wastegate. Along with 300 Nm (221 lb.ft) of torque at 1950 rpm, these relate to a 9% increase in power and 13% more torque than the outgoing 300 Tdi engine. From 2002 the Discovery automatic was uprated to
produce 340 Nm (250 lb.ft) of torque at the same engine speed.
The Td5 uses Electronic Unit Injectors to burn exactly the right amount of fuel, which mean that when first released, the emissions are so clean that was no need for a catalytic converter in order to meet emissions regulations (EU2).
With the introduction of EU3 regulations, the engine gained an Exhaust Gas Regulation (EGR) cooler, as well as a catalytic convertor in the exhaust.
The dual chain-driven overhead camshaft pressurises the fuel in the injectors to 1500 bar (22,000 psi) compared to around 600 bar (9,000 psi) in the Tdi, and this is one of the key advantages of using EUI
technology, as it provides good emission control due to the very high pressure of fuel injection. The high pressure in the Td5 is possible because each injector has a camshaft driven pump, so there is no problem with containing high pressure fuel in fuel rails.
Injection of the fuel is controlled by the ECU, which controls the fuel spill valve inside the injector, and this allows fuel to be injected into the cylinder.
The oil filtration method has been greatly improved over the 300 Tdi, with a centrifugal particle filter fitted ahead of the normal filter. This means that oil changes are now only required every 12,000 miles (20,000 km), compared to 6,000 miles (10,000 km) for the 300 Tdi and most other competitors.
The Td5 is the first diesel engine in the Defender to be wholly controlled by an engine management (or control) unit (EMU/ECU) - codenamed 'Thunder' and developed in conjunction with Lucas. The ECU regulates fuel delivery
by taking into account a number of factors from the engine and the surroundings - such as inlet air pressure and temperature, intake air flow, coolant temperature and the throttle pedal position from the fly-by-wire
accelerator.
The ECU also controls the glow-plug timing and is connected to the alarm to form the main part of the immobiliser system. The ECU improves drivability by taking inputs from the clutch, brake and throttle pedal to smooth out gear changes and reduce driveline shunt. With low range selected on the new LT230Q transfer box, the ECU enables Fast Throttle Control (FTC) which widens pedal travel, giving more control over the engine speed in off road and low speed operation.
sorry for long winded answer, Slunnie has already answered all your questions I just added more info.
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5th July 2008, 09:25 PM
#6
wow! thanks Slunnie and Disco_Owner.....some excellent information there...certainly more then I asked for.. Thanks for going to the effort.
You didn't just type that from the top of your head did you?
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7th July 2008, 07:14 AM
#7
Have a squiz here
Web Rover
Nore than you'll ever need to know.
Regards
Max P
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7th July 2008, 03:03 PM
#8
so which "competitors engine" can we blame for the leaking injector harness
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7th July 2008, 03:12 PM
#9
That issues isnt unique to LR. my brother is a Mechanic for a Major tractor company and they have the same issue. Its a lot more expensive to fix on those....!!
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