Is there a God?

Personally i don't believe at all ...... my thoughts are we do everything ourselves ..... we work our butts off to put food on the table and to have money to live ..... we train ourselves to be good at sport and the work that we do .
I have won plenty of races in speedway but that was due to a lot of money and practice and determination ...... Didn't see the lord all mighty open a wallet and say heres a few bucks go out and buy the good stuff .... Nuh mate a few more laps of practice will lead you in the lords way ...... WRONG !!!!! did it myself with a heap of hard work .
And if this all mighty fella was around i'm sure he wouldn't let all the 3rd world country's die of starvation and disease ....... come on people take the blinkers off and have a look around .......... my 2 cents






had people with suites turn up at the door this morning selling books ...... not a fan of that ...... not at 7.30am .... just had to vent a little .

I am a self made man...

... and I worship my maker.

:)

Of course there is a God..

















....what do you lot wont now.....

I'm fed up with you land rover drivers, its Oh god bloody thing wont go

again or Jesus Christ that hurt, (when the spanner sliped) you lot wont

the best of both worlds you even try talking to my partner Lucas (Prince

of Darkness)

but on a lighter note....no there is not


Tony

Has anyone noticed that pope Eggs Benedict looks and sounds a bit like the bad guy the Darth Vader works for?!?!

THink about...

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Personally i don't believe at all ...... my thoughts are we do everything ourselves ..... we work our butts off to put food on the table and to have money to live ..... we train ourselves to be good at sport and the work that we do .
I have won plenty of races in speedway but that was due to a lot of money and practice and determination ...... Didn't see the lord all mighty open a wallet and say heres a few bucks go out and buy the good stuff .... Nuh mate a few more laps of practice will lead you in the lords way ...... WRONG !!!!! did it myself with a heap of hard work .
And if this all mighty fella was around i'm sure he wouldn't let all the 3rd world country's die of starvation and disease ....... come on people take the blinkers off and have a look around .......... my 2 cents

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Of course each to their own, I do believe in God, though don't necessarily follow any particular religion. Religion to me is like football teams, they are all playing the same game, but the culture, beliefs maybe different.

In terms of the bolded parts, maybe this is an explanation:

If someone prays for patience, you think God gives them patience? Or does he give them the opportunity to be patient? If he prayed for courage, does God give him courage, or does he give him opportunities to be courageous? If someone prayed for the family to be closer, do you think God zaps them with warm fuzzy feelings, or does he give them opportunities to love each other? Basically its called "free will".

I often also think in regards to issues such as the 3rd world etc...but is it God or is it mankind allowing it?? We ( being the likes of US,UK and Oz for example) spend billions on defence, what if that was spent on aid instead? Is it not also the responsibility of the Governments of those countries to look after their people?

Ultimately, for many there is the issue of who really knows, none of us can be truly sure. I still do my head in thinking of which came first...the chicken or the egg :),

Regards

Stevo

Well said Stevo
Somehow I wonder who has the blinkers on??
Also good to see there are so many self-made men on this forum.
I get the feeling you all expect God to just give and give and give, but what are you prepared to give in return, or give first? Have you ever gotten groceries or petrol or spare parts without paying? You have to give something to get something in return. God is not into handouts, but rather into giving you the opportunity to achieve what you want. If you give your kids love, you'll get love in return - simple. All God wants is a bit of faith - you ever considered that? You'd all be surprised what can happen.
I'll be bold enough to stand up and say that I believe - and I have reason to, but unfortunately it depends on your perspective of who's got the blinkers on. Suppose it's easier to walk with the masses and ridicule the Pope or other believers, than to stand for something that can't be seen - hence that's why it's called faith. If it's not faith it's a fact. (btw i am not catholic - but as Stevo said there are many teams, but still only one God)
You all have faith that you'll still be alive tomorrow morning - see, it's not so difficult to have faith. Just because you cant see it (or rather WANT to see it) does'nt mean it's not there. Have you ever seen an oxygen molecule?
Well , i have faith that my landrover will start tomorrow, so i'll leave it at that.

All fair comments stevo ;). As said they are my thoughts and i'm not speaking for anyone else .I have no problems with people believing as it is their life and can do what they want ..... just not a believer myself .
my thoughts ....... I think we make our own opportunities happen through hard work and lots of thought . If the big fella was real i think it would be noticeable and you would be able to tell if you had a helping hand . everyone has been at rock bottom at some stage of their life and i have and lost everything and have started again. I made things happen myself and got no help from anyone and still having a hard time but getting there . If he was real there would of been some help but i seen nothing .
I've been dealt a lot of bad cards in the last few years one of them loosing my dad at age 13 ( he was 36 ) . If he is real he is showing it in a real bad way ..... and if he is real and does show his face i'll punch it .

and as for what doesn't kill us makes us stronger is ok but a person can only cop that a few time before breaking down . as said my thoughts .

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Originally Posted by stevo68

Of course each to their own, I do believe in God, though don't necessarily follow any particular religion. Religion to me is like football teams, they are all playing the same game, but the culture, beliefs maybe different.

In terms of the bolded parts, maybe this is an explanation:

If someone prays for patience, you think God gives them patience? Or does he give them the opportunity to be patient? If he prayed for courage, does God give him courage, or does he give him opportunities to be courageous? If someone prayed for the family to be closer, do you think God zaps them with warm fuzzy feelings, or does he give them opportunities to love each other? Basically its called "free will".

I often also think in regards to issues such as the 3rd world etc...but is it God or is it mankind allowing it?? We ( being the likes of US,UK and Oz for example) spend billions on defence, what if that was spent on aid instead? Is it not also the responsibility of the Governments of those countries to look after their people?

Ultimately, for many there is the issue of who really knows, none of us can be truly sure. I still do my head in thinking of which came first...the chicken or the egg :),

Regards

Stevo

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then we'd be the third world countries :D

have a look at the documentary zegiest got some theory's that would really scare Christians

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Originally Posted by stevo68

If someone prays for patience, you think God gives them patience? Or does he give them the opportunity to be patient? If he prayed for courage, does God give him courage, or does he give him opportunities to be courageous? If someone prayed for the family to be closer, do you think God zaps them with warm fuzzy feelings, or does he give them opportunities to love each other? Basically its called "free will".

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Which is why God gave us Landrover. Plenty of opportunities to be patient, courageous and spend time with the family.