Toyota Prius vs Jeep Patriot fuel consumption

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Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

That's lucky. Maybe she didn't need to have the broken collar bone? Did it hit on the driver or the passenger side? At what speed?

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I do not have any other information.
He did say the hoons car was a mess and an ambulance took them to hospital.

Yes the wife did not need that, but she did fare better than the others.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

IMHO these modern diesels don't make sense if you do a lot of highway driving but they do if you do a lot of inner urban stop start stuff. With the increase in cost of diesel and the extra the manufactures charge for the diesel they probably don't make sense if the manufacturer offers a good petrol. Not all of them do though. Subaru are a good example, even their most economical petrol is quite a guzzler by class standards.

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I think you will find that modern diesels do very well for long distance driving. The diesels all beat the Pious in the standard fuel production models for fuel ecomomy in the Solar Challenge. Stop start is the only situation where the Pious would do better. VW did a concept Golf that diesel that switched off when stationary and started again automatically when you wanted to take off. That would have been goo, dunno why it didn't fly for them though?

The Pious and the Horrid Hybrid are particularly unsuited vehicles for Australian conditions, it works for congested city situations and short distances. ok as a second vehicles if you live in the city?

The Pious is more about marketing than reality and not many who have bought them will be willing to admit it is a mistake because they think others will think they are admitting being environmentally concious was a mistake.

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Originally Posted by RonMcGr

I do not have any other information.
He did say the hoons car was a mess and an ambulance took them to hospital.

Yes the wife did not need that, but she did fare better than the others.

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At any rate it's really good that your mates wife was OK. Road safety is so important. Everyone is someone's Mum or sister or daughter or son....

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Originally Posted by CaverD3

I think you will find that modern diesels do very well for long distance driving. The diesels all beat the Pious in the standard fuel production models for fuel ecomomy in the Solar Challenge. Stop start is the only situation where the Pious would do better. VW did a concept Golf that diesel that switched off when stationary and started again automatically when you wanted to take off. That would have been goo, dunno why it didn't fly for them though?

The Pious and the Horrid Hybrid are particularly unsuited vehicles for Australian conditions, it works for congested city situations and short distances. ok as a second vehicles if you live in the city?

The Pious is more about marketing than reality and not many who have bought them will be willing to admit it is a mistake because they think others will think they are admitting being environmentally concious was a mistake.

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I agree with all that. :) I'm just saying that the petrol technologies that are coming now are also very good. VW/Audi have a number of low blow turbos and turbo/supercharged direct injected petrols that give performance and stunning economy. The diesels are great too. VW has a Passat and now Golf "Blue motion" versions returning 5l/100 and 4.something in Europe :) BMW and fiat have some 100 MPG micros coming very soon.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

At any rate it's really good that your mates wife was OK. Road safety is so important. Everyone is someone's Mum or sister or daughter or son....

All I can say about road safety is that we should teach our drivers how to drive properly and push people to drive properly by actually not giving licences to people who cant drive and taking licences off people who dont drive properly.

Encourage advanced driving courses, 4wding courses and club membership and turn the average car owner driver back into a motorist (motoring enthusiest)


I agree with all that. :) I'm just saying that the petrol technologies that are coming now are also very good. VW/Audi have a number of low blow turbos and turbo/supercharged direct injected petrols that give performance and stunning economy. The diesels are great too. VW has a Passat and now Golf "Blue motion" versions returning 5l/100 and 4.something in Europe :) BMW and fiat have some 100 MPG micros coming very soon.

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Petrol requires more energy to produce and emits more polution than diesel and there is no getting away from that so this is why Diesel, LPG,CNG,CMG or ethanol based fuel is far more likely to take over as the fuels for the future.