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    Need advice please? What would you do?

    G'Day All,

    What would you do if in my place?

    In march '07 I bought my first brand new ute . Now at my new place of work there is a 30% staff discount off RRP for the brand of car we sell at the dealership.........Dont need to mention brands or money here I think

    Anyway my wife and I have been thinking about this so much Im really confused now and need advice, plus Marie has stopped talking about it , well to me anyway

    At the moment Ive lost $5k in 1 1/2 years of owning the ute (wholesale price) , now with 15,500km on the clock. But if I buy another brand new car including the staff discount (save at least $10-$15k+) surely I will break even or even make a little to get into the next level next time around, (but making money isnt my main reason)....and that would be in 11 months time, and would only have maybe 5,000-8,000km max on the clock after that time.

    I dont hate our ute but in my new job I can borrow anything from the dealership (company car) inc a heap of 4x4's so there really isnt a need to keep the ute for a weeking away camping and offroad work.

    I know the ute isnt going to increase in value, thats for sure but I think I will need to to take a hit this time around,then from now on I will/should be infront.......What do you think?

    I guess it could be worse , ie people that buy brand new Rangie's etc, Ive heard storys of people loseing $20k in one year.........so I guess 5 grand is nothing in the big sceam of things, but I need to be careful as my wife is doing a course and isnt working at the moment......10 years ago I would have just done it and wacked more money on the home loan, but it seems Im getting tighter as the years pass on....

    And to make it worse Ive been looking at sports cars lately inc a 1997 986 PORSCHE BOXSTER, I have no idea why I just have , also Ive realised Ive been looking at younger women alot more latly......Me thinking mid life crisis maybe whats the fix? New car or new wife.........Im sure the new car would be much cheaper in the long run


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    Andrew

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    It will cost a lot more to trade the wife in 5k isn't to bad over a year or so. Dump it and get what you want if its practical.

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    Hey Andrew,

    As for wives, much cheaper to stick with the current model you have. Yes it would be great to trade up for a younger or perhaps sportier looking model but think of all the headaches this more highly tuned model brings Diagnostics on these more exotic models are near impossible where with your current one you should have a basic understanding of how things work

    As for cars,

    If you dont need the ute as you can use work vehicles anytime then get rid of it while it's still worth something decent. The cost of keeping a vehicle thats not being used is high as i'm sure you know, rego, insurance, fuel, maintenance etc.
    If you do need to keep it as transport for your wife, well then look at what a new vehicle is going to cost you per month to keep, as opposed to your current one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amshaw View Post
    At the moment Ive lost $5k in 1 1/2 years of owning the ute (wholesale price) , now with 15,500km on the clock.
    What have you lost if you can sell it privately, not wholesale? Or is the $5k loss based on selling it privately after buying it at trade price?

    Re new model wife, they are too exxy for upkeep as you can't trade the old one and have to keep maintaining it, too.

    However, browsing around the yard is OK. Just don't test drive......
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    Don't know what the Porsche and younger women has to do with the price of cars and loss on resale, I will leave all that to the marriage councilor.

    Sound like you don't need to have your own car. Just borrow one from the dealership.

    Is there a tax angle that you need to consider?

    I am no good on advice in this area, once I get a car I run it into the ground before I get another one.

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    Thanks for the replys so far guys.

    We still need a car for Marie to get around and a sedan will work out much cheaper to run around.

    As it stands I can do a straight swap for a Holden VE Commodore 60th Anniversary Sedan. I would rather a Omega or even better a SV6 Sportwagon but I just dont want to spend the $3k or $6k extra to get into either.

    Ron , yes that is the wholesale price I got while ringing around. I should be able to get a bit more but the way people are scared off by Diesel price's out this way Im not really sure how much, but then it still has 1 1/2 years factory warranty left etc. We have a '07 Rodeo Demo at work and we are having trouble getting $30k for that with next to no km on it, so I may get around the 26k at best after Ive taken all the gear off it. But having said that Ive never had probs selling cars on the private market

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    Geez mate what sort of car (ute) did you buy that only deprciated $5K in a year and a half, unless it cost only $10k new, mate I have to have one, Regards Frank.

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    I may be wrong but I've never thought it was worth buying a new car as a private buyer.

    As a business you can claim the depreciation and all that stuff but I don't know if you can as a private owner.

    $5k isn't bad for a year though, I once heard that you loose 20% in the first year off a new car so unless it was less than $25k then you've done ok.

    I wouldn't even bother with wholesale price unless I had to get rid of a car because it was crap and costing me more than it would be worth to keep until sold privately.

    If I were in your position, I would look at buying a good condition second hand car that's pretty cheap to run and something that insurance isn't a killer on e.g. a Corolla, Pulsar or Excel for just getting around and you Mrs to drive as once you have it, there is nothing more to pay but the basics and if you can borrow a car from the lot then if you want to go on a trip somewhere then you take a car from there.

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    Flog the car and buy a crotch rocket.

    You said it yourself - you have access to a yard full of cars.
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    The longer you keep the car the less it's worth. $5,000 in a year and a half is very cheap unless you are buying bombs in the first place. If you can see yourself staying in job long term then it sounds like it's worth upgrading each year and keeping the ownership cost at next to nil.
    I don't think I will ever buy new again unless you are talking a dream super car after I am a multi milionaire.
    For the everage person it is a huge hit to buy new. For you it sound like the only way to go.
    Make sure you do your sums first.

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