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    hi all, i'm on a 5 acre plot but for some reason it doesn't seem to be enough for my dogs and i'm worried our local ranger (who i'm sure is a direct descendant from hitler) is going to come and get them. our neighbours are great and whenever they have escaped they've always got them before the ranger has and tucked them away till we've got home - but i'd still rather they didn't get out in the first place which is why i'm thinking of an electric fence.
    our plot is well fenced and were forever repairng the holes at the bottom where the dogs force there way through next but it is a complete loop.
    there are products that we've seen where you can create an "invisible fence" and put a collar on the dogs so if they get near/cross the boundry then they get a zap thus teaching them limits of where they can go. these however really limit to where the dogs can go and it kind of defeats the purpose of having 5 acres if they can't use it so i was hoping someone might be able to recomend something that could be wired to our existing fence thus giving the dogs total freedom within the whole of the plot but a zap at the outermost boundary to stop the escaping and meeting up with their mates

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    Not really, the invisible fence really works well, just place them along the boundary fence or wherever they are more likely to try and get out.
    I bet once they become aware that anywhere near the fence is a no go zone you wont have to put them everywhere along the fence line.

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    Its easily done Jason.
    Call into one of the Elders or Wesfarmers agents in Midland.
    You wont need the big "bull stopper" setup.You need to run an insualted wire close to ground level where the dogs will touch it.Its REAL easy to set up on an exsisting fence.
    You will need to keep the fencline sprayed for weeds having a hot wire close to the ground,they will short the fence and deem it OFF in any sort of dewy weather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LandyAndy View Post
    Its easily done Jason.
    Call into one of the Elders or Wesfarmers agents in Midland.
    You wont need the big "bull stopper" setup.You need to run an insualted wire close to ground level where the dogs will touch it.Its REAL easy to set up on an exsisting fence.
    You will need to keep the fencline sprayed for weeds having a hot wire close to the ground,they will short the fence and deem it OFF in any sort of dewy weather.
    Goodluck
    Andrew
    Just to correct a possible misconception - you need to run a bare wire on insulators, not an insulated wire. If conditions are very dry and the soil conductivity very low, you may need to have an earth wire as well below the live wire.

    There are a variety of purpose built insulators depending on the structure of the existing fence - see the retailers suggested for advice.

    (I have just spent some time rebuilding electric fences to keep goats in now that we have water in a particular paddock for the first time in years)

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    In my experience, dogs are very sensitive to electric fences so even in very dry conditions they will feel the zap.
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    Wouldn't easier/cheaper to run chicken wire or some other mesh from about 30-50 cm above the ground, then dig it down 20cm into the soil for another 30-50cm? It'd then be too much hard work for them to try to dig it all out and get under the wire. You could then put a line of bricks along the dug soil to just make it that little more difficult.

    Once it's in, no more maintenance. Just a thought.

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    I have both systems #1 Dog Contain and Train, good system If your dogs are kenneled and the collars put on when dogs are let out. But would not really be suitable for continuos use as collars go flat and dogs will need training. I am not confident trusting this system if there are two dogs involved as they will lead each other on. Cost with 2 collars $1500 approx. Will still need to run wire around perimiter for system.
    #2 Electric fence I have two yards for my dogs with chicken wire and they both push through and get out. I ran 3 strand electric around perimiter no further problems. You should only need to by some stand offs and fit them to your existing posts about 15cm from bottom run wire through these. You will need to slash or spray to reduce shorting.

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    Why not flog them with a whip instead! or shoot them! most of that has worked in the past.

    hell what have we come to when the masses think the best solution is to barbeque them with some hot wire.
    and i dont know about WA but in NSW there is this
    PREVENTION OF CRUELTY TO ANIMALS (GENERAL) REGULATION 2006 - SCHEDULE 1


    The last time i looked at farm electric fences they were for farm animals, cattle sheep goats pigs , i can;t recall the charge being able to be turned down for 'pet dogs', most states have a bar against them being used for cats and dogs, in my opinion anyone who uses them to control domestic pets deserves to be charged with cruelty.


    Think outside the square. People make money out of helping people train and detrain dogs, hell I used to do it for a living.
    The most innovative product on the market is this

    Invisible Dog Fencing - Innotek SD-2000 - DogMaster Trainers

    no I am not affiliated with them, even thought about it for here.


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    dog fence

    I have the house paddock of our property wired for the dogs.
    There is a single wire on standoffs about 6 inches off the ground.
    Works well for both the large and small dog. They only have to touch it once
    to know not to go under the fence. Dogs are quick learners.
    Make sure you keep the grass trimmed underneath or it will short out and lessen the effect.
    As for been cruel to dogs, well letting your dogs get out and taking a bait, or being caught by the ranger,or been hit by a car is a lot crueler.
    My kids as well as myself occasionally touch the wire by accident. It's not the end of the world!
    By the way the Innotec collar works with a audible warning beep as the dog gets close to the wire (buried underground) then a zap if the dog gets to the wire. The zap is more than a standard electric fence.

    It's all about discipline from the start. We are not allowed to control our kids any more thanks to the bleeding hearts brigade. Look where thats got us.

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    Thats exactly it. I'm not going to sit down and discussion the social issues of escaping with my dog. Like I've learnt not to touch hot things, the dogs will learn not to get zapped and they wont be any worse off for it. Its not like it harms the dogs.
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