Nicely done. Mans best friend does not deserve a knee jerk reaction, especially one as terminal as a green needle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucy
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Nicely done. Mans best friend does not deserve a knee jerk reaction, especially one as terminal as a green needle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucy
Oh - you told me he just didn;t like Range Rovers ! :eek: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by incisor
Seriosuly though I think Staffies are very good family dogs but like ALL animals it comes down to how they have been raised and to some extent their bloodlines.
My pups are Bull Arab (hunting breed) X Boxer / Staffy.
The only danger you are likely to get in with them is being licked to death. They love playing with my nephews some of whom are 4 / 5 years old.
Staffies are howver very people (or should I say person) oriented - they tend to form a bond with an individual and can get very jealous when a usurper (eg a child) comes in and takes attention away a bit so they do need watching.
Inc is right though - don;t leave kids unattended with dogs (as I';m sure you are aware).
Would I hesitate to have a Staffy ? Not in the least !
I also endorse the comment on retired greyhounds being great dogs.
I did quite a bit of research on Staffys before I bought one. Basically, I couldn't fault them for a pet, as far as my lifestyle is concerned. One minute they're running around like a crazy thing (everything is a game to them) and the next minute they're asleep on your lap.
Any dog can be brought up the 'wrong' way. I did read more than a couple of times in my research that, "a staffy wont start a fight, but they can finish a fight if they are forced to".
I've had mine for 4 years and she is well socialised and I've never seen any sign of 'real' aggression from her towards anything. She sure can sound mean sometimes, but it's all bark and no bite.
I went through a difficult time in my life for a few years........I couldn't have asked for a better companion than my staffy at the time.
I am extremely biased towards Staffys, but I would highly recommend them to most people looking for an energetic, but very loveable family dog, or companion.
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god she is cute!!!!!
The injury to Bear my Shihtzu was thus, throat completely ripped out and there was alot of blood I mean alot, when I walked in and seen it the Lab was the only dog who had blood on him the Staff was clean but then again the Lab may have been protecting Bear, my Shihtzus are bred with Maltys and Pomeranians I have one girl who is the oldest who thinks she rules the roost but there is rarely aggression, they play non stop and the Staffy happily plays with them, even the cat gets along with the Staffy,
As I said we moved the Lab on to a Labrador sanctuary at Yass and they were going to rehome him, guess all I can do is watch them and keep an eye out for trouble.
Hmm, dunno if I am missing something here, but I cannot see how the staffy would be clean if there was lots of blood and a throat ripped out. Dogs dont lick themselves clean like a cat. My old shepherd got into a barney with a Malamute that decided to jump into our yard and he was protecting the retriever bitch. SWMBO rang me about the fight as Benz had his ear ripped and he had also taken some decent chunks out of the malamute. I couldnt get home for about an hr plus and he was still covered in his own and the other dogs blood.Quote:
The injury to Bear my Shihtzu was thus, throat completely ripped out and there was alot of blood I mean alot, when I walked in and seen it the Lab was the only dog who had blood on him the Staff was clean but then again the Lab may have been protecting Bear, my Shihtzus are bred with Maltys and Pomeranians I have one girl who is the oldest who thinks she rules the roost but there is rarely aggression, they play non stop and the Staffy happily plays with them, even the cat gets along with the Staffy,
As I said we moved the Lab on to a Labrador sanctuary at Yass and they were going to rehome him, guess all I can do is watch them and keep an eye out for trouble.
Sounds to me you've made a very wrong call here,
Regards
Stevo
All the dogs had blood on there legs and feet the floor was soaking in it, the Lab may have been trying to lick Bears wounds, who knows I sure as hell dont, all this said the dog is gone and has been for a while, I was abit anti Staff after what happened but I keep thinking about it so when mention was made of getting another one I was very apprehensive towards it, I heard so many stories of just how capable a killing machine a Staff can be and very little can be done to seperate one thats intent on killing something , I dont know just have to see how things go. I
I recon the pack instinct appeared,and it was possibly both of them.
We had a 18yr old cat that used to go next door & sun itself.New neighbours arrived with a couple of staffies,they got the cat & ripped it to pieces,we are talking mince meat here,they also ate most of it.
I recon this was the pack thing,if only one dog was there,probably would not have happened.
I also got biten by a staffie once,ther not for me.
Some relatives of our had one for around 15yrs,and it was fine,died recently from a tick ,they want another one.They recon it was the best dog they ever had.
After our Dobe died of old age,SWMBO went & got a Sharpei,now they are a strange dog,i recon they are half cat.....
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Stevo,
as with most dogs most Shepherds are good dogs and I personally dont have much of a problem with them. But facts are facts and Shepherds have the worst record for biting. As said I did some research a few years back and the only country that keeps official records is Germany and Shepherds by a big margin were the #1 dog for attacks wether causing serious injury or not. I no longer have the data as the hard drive I had it all on died and I no longer required the info. Given time I will try and track down the site again. But realistically cant be bothered again. Someone with something to prove can do it as it took me quite a while. Knowing and my wife used to work with Rangers they will tell you the same as most of the dogs they put down for attacks are Shepherds / Alsation or cross breeds of them. I have seen too many attacks (not bad) on kids of both the owner and guests by these dogs by animals that were deemed to be dosile. Any dog of course can do so.
The reason I did the research is we kept getting abuse about having a Staffy and an ignorant ranger. I used to keep a print out of the data and info from the dangerous dogs association for a while to front people about it.
Even anecdotal information from multiple vets confirmed some of this.
They are certainly not the most aggressive dog by any means, just due to their size when they do nip they usually hurt and get reported.
We have had chiauhas as well and they are one of the most aggressive dogs around, but do little damage. People generally had no trouble or concern coming into the yard with a Staffy but the wowas used to keep them at the gate.
Yes like labs they are very intelligent animals. I had a lab for 14 years (age 1-15) and she was my guardian angel and shadow.
Sorry you have taken offence, but these were the facts I came up with and were not just made up.
Same as the Staffy info, they were getting maligned for pit bull, american bull terrier (different to american staffy), english pig dogs and cross breeds. On several occassions I rang the West Australian and the Kalgoorlie Miner to confirm the identity of an attacking dog was a Staffy and every time they could not substantiate it and their normal response was "it was a bull terier, their all the same". When on occassion I could get hold of the ranger or vetit was discovered in fact it was not a Staffy purebred. The staffy association of WA have also done a lot of work on this and debunked all but one claim in WA I know of and most in Australia.
Nothing wrong with a Shepherd and I like most dogs, its just a risk we all take having one no matter what breed. They all can and will attack if provoked or have a bad day.
From what I understand a lot of it comes from bad blood lines that can lead to a form of insanity in dogs like this including labs and retrievers and is usually bad genetics and irresponsible breeders.
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