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    Didnt They use the 6 cyl rover engine in some of the rover cars?i am sure it was in the rover 75,the old man had one for a few years.Or it could have been a 70,cant remember.It also had this mechanism that you turned under the dash,and when you took your foot off the accelerator it would freewheel,or something like that.

    I was only an ankle biter in those days,so memory isnt that good

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    Didnt They use the 6 cyl rover engine in some of the rover cars?... <snip>
    yes basically the whole of the P4 model range apart from the 60? and 80 (the 80 BTW had the Land Rover 2.25 engine.)

    Although the Land Rover version is actually based on a downsized 3 litre P5 Rover car engine. If you look at the first of the Land Rover 6 cyl (SIIA export forward controls in 1963) they even had the same water pump as the 3 litre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    yes basically the whole of the P4 model range apart from the 60? and 80 (the 80 BTW had the Land Rover 2.25 engine.)

    Although the Land Rover version is actually based on a downsized 3 litre P5 Rover car engine. If you look at the first of the Land Rover 6 cyl (SIIA export forward controls in 1963) they even had the same water pump as the 3 litre.

    Thought you would come up with an answer......your wealth of knowledge is unreal........

    What about the thing that made it freewheel......do you know what that was,i am sure it was factory fitted.....the old man departed this world in 1984,so cant ask him anything

    It may have been a round sort of knob under the dash that you screwed to turn on & off....its interesting as i have never seen anything like it since

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    Thought you would come up with an answer......your wealth of knowledge is unreal........

    What about the thing that made it freewheel......do you know what that was,i am sure it was factory fitted.....the old man departed this world in 1984,so cant ask him anything

    It may have been a round sort of knob under the dash that you screwed to turn on & off....its interesting as i have never seen anything like it since
    It was a cable operated mechanism on the input shaft which disconnected the input shaft from the rest of the gearbox on the over-run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    Thought you would come up with an answer......your wealth of knowledge is unreal........

    What about the thing that made it freewheel......do you know what that was,i am sure it was factory fitted.....the old man departed this world in 1984,so cant ask him anything

    It may have been a round sort of knob under the dash that you screwed to turn on & off....its interesting as i have never seen anything like it since
    Basically it was a sprag clutch, like the one in the gear cluster on a pushbike. Turned the other way around the Rover one was used in the 1948-(early)1951 80" Land Rover to make the constant 4X4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Basically it was a sprag clutch, like the one in the gear cluster on a pushbike. Turned the other way around the Rover one was used in the 1948-(mid)1950 80" Land Rover to make the constant 4X4.
    Free wheel units like this were introduced on cars in the 1930's, mainly because when fitted with one of these you can easily and noiselessly change gears without having synchromesh, as the gearbox stops moving almost as soon as you disengage the clutch. While the general introduction of synchromesh made them somewhat redundant, they continued to be fitted to semiluxury and luxury British cars into the sixties, as they make it easy to drive very smoothly. They were often combined with overdrive to give extra gears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Free wheel units like this were introduced on cars in the 1930's, mainly because when fitted with one of these you can easily and noiselessly change gears without having synchromesh, as the gearbox stops moving almost as soon as you disengage the clutch. While the general introduction of synchromesh made them somewhat redundant, they continued to be fitted to semiluxury and luxury British cars into the sixties, as they make it easy to drive very smoothly. They were often combined with overdrive to give extra gears.

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    My 1969 Toyota Crown had that system.

    It was great. With a 3 speed column shift the overdrive gave four gears on the way up and five on the way down. It was especially useful towing a caravan.

    It could be locked out for engine breaking, but then I didn't have the overdrive available.

    That wasn't really a problem because generally when I needed engine braking I didn't need overdrive.

    Mind you it used to frighten the daylights out of people who were not used to it who drove forward in first gear and expected the car to virtually stop when they lifted their foot.

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    Thumbs up thanks everyone again

    As usual a plethora of information that I am most grateful to everyone for sharing. I am definitely still going to go series diesel. The 202 is serving well getting its neck wrung on the freeway everyday even at 15l/100klm its reliable. The wishlist is an overdrive and a series diesel because of the amount of klms i drive (average 800-1000 per week). It stays on the wishlist for a while longer I need a new ride-on mower.


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    Why don't you just up the gearing?.Changing engines will not make a series a highway cruiser and an O/D will drive you mad.You need 3.54 diffs or if you go more off-road fit the centres out of the above mentioned P5 salloons,they are 3.9.They bolt straight into rover diffed LR's. Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by vnx205 View Post
    My 1969 Toyota Crown had that system.

    It was great. With a 3 speed column shift the overdrive gave four gears on the way up and five on the way down. It was especially useful towing a caravan.

    It could be locked out for engine breaking, but then I didn't have the overdrive available.

    That wasn't really a problem because generally when I needed engine braking I didn't need overdrive.

    Mind you it used to frighten the daylights out of people who were not used to it who drove forward in first gear and expected the car to virtually stop when they lifted their foot.
    I'd be one of those.

    The first time I came up to a railway crossing with the boom gates down at the bottom of a slope on Goodwood Road in Adelaide, in third gear, just after I bought my Crown - frightened the daylights out of me.
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