Snake experts....?

**scarry** · 26th December 2008, 10:12 AM

anyone got any idea what type of snake this is?It was on the beach,but doesnt appear to be a sea snake.It was extremely aggressive,sorry about the quality of the pics.Put the last pic in to show the way it stood up ready to strike..........
umm......no its not a leggless lizard

It was only around 600mm long,it wasnt interested in going into the sea.

This carpet snake was a visitor we had at our place not to long ago

**Pedro_The_Swift** · 26th December 2008, 10:14 AM

Earth to Crump!

**Bigbjorn** · 26th December 2008, 10:18 AM

Not an Australian Trouser Snake.

**Chucaro** · 26th December 2008, 10:22 AM

Very hard to Id it in this small image, Looks like that have a very light color on the belly so can be a juvenile sp or a Small-eyed Snake Cryptophis nigrescens

**scarry** · 26th December 2008, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Chucaro

Very hard to Id it in this small image, Looks like that have a very light color on the belly so can be a juvenile sp or a Small-eyed Snake Cryptophis nigrescens

Here is the best pic a bit bigger.....hope it helps

As for the Aussie trouser snake......any pics

**long stroke** · 26th December 2008, 10:41 AM

To me it looks like a rough scaled snake also known as a clarence river snake, they can be very agresive at times (and deadly), but i'm not shore if you get them up QLD

Also could be a brown snake as they come in all sourts of colours, but the head looks wrong for a brown.

CHEERS TIM.

**Chucaro** · 26th December 2008, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by long stroke

To me it looks like a rough scale snake, they can be very agresive at times, but i'm not shore if you get them up QLD

TIM.

We can get them here in the Wide Bay Area. The snake in the photo have the black spots like the Rough-scaled Snake (Tropidechis carinatus) but looks a too dark or black. Generally the Rough-scaled is more brownish
HERE is a link to read about them.
Cheers

**long stroke** · 26th December 2008, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by Chucaro

We can get them here in the Wide Bay Area. The snake in the photo have the black spots like the Rough-scaled Snake (Tropidechis carinatus) but looks a too dark or black. Generally the Rough-scaled is more brownish
HERE is a link to read about them.
Cheers

Thats what i was thinking, they are usually a lighter brown with black bands

I don't know much about what snakes you get up there though.

TIM.

**scarry** · 26th December 2008, 11:19 AM

From memory,the rough scaled snake,and the keelback are very similar,the rough scaled being deadly,while the keelback or watersnake as they are sometimes called are harmless,has no fanges.Scale counting is the only other way to differentiate the two positively.

We get them both around here.The colour of the snake in question is different
from either a rough scaled or keelback.

It was on the beach at bribie.

**UncleHo** · 26th December 2008, 11:39 AM

G'day Scarry

Looks like a rough scale taipan,also known around this area as, "Scallie Charlie" or "Swamp Tiger" related closely to the Western Qld rough scale Taipan, (Aggressive Taipan) they can vary from dark brown to almost black in this area, and are found in,Caboolture,Glasshouse Mountains area,Ningi,& Bribie. my Brother in Law took the first specimens that he caught to Qld Museum in 1968 or 69, he caught them on his farm at Beerburrum. they were identified as Western Taipans, and the staff had never recorded them this far east and near the coast, only theory was that they had migrated via truck or train from the west. Crump would be able to give a better idea.

They are very Aggressive and Venomous,will chase you for sport, like a King Brown will.

For those travelling to Fraser Island there are known colonies of FUNNELL WEB Spiders on/in the beach dunes but Tourist Commission keeps quite about them.

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