Thread: Ruds Hand Out

Originally Posted by Numpty's Missus

Backpeddling very very fast Rosscoe

nope, not backpeddling, just correcting something i said that was not what i meant, i stil beleive this economic stimulus package is all a farce.

Hey Rosscoe,,!

we agree on something!

Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

Do you know parents that give the payments back Roscoe?

no, but i work computer/electrical retail, and i see plenty of them spending on big plasma's and laptops etc for kids that are not even old enough to sit in a car without a car booster seat.

p.s. all of which is made overseas, so very little benefit to the local economy other than jerry harvey making some more cash.

Originally Posted by Rosscoe68

actually just reread what i typed, and i typed it incorrectly, i didnt mean to say that those people live off the government, that implies dole and pensioners, thats not what i was indicating, perhaps what i should have said was people that rely on the government for the parental payments etc.

What's wrong with getting the parenting payment . If it wasn't for it i could tell you now we would be in a gutter asking for change . we bust our butt's just as hard as anyone else . It's just our jobs pay bugger all . we have never been in a spot to have investments or been lucky enough to have any .

I'll be happy the day we can support ourselves and not need it . but until then it's also putting food on the table for us and our kids .

Originally Posted by Fusion

What's wrong with getting the parenting payment . If it wasn't for it i could tell you now we would be in a gutter asking for change . we bust our butt's just as hard as anyone else . It's just our jobs pay bugger all . we have never been in a spot to have investments or been lucky enough to have any .

I'll be happy the day we can support ourselves and not need it . but until then it's also putting food on the table for us and our kids .

very simply put, instead of handouts to certain people, why not tax cuts for low to middle income earners, that way you are not penalised if you dont have children. p.s. i dont earn enough money at present to pay tax, so i still would not get anything, but i still feel that would be a lot more fair.

Originally Posted by Fusion

What's wrong with getting the parenting payment .
I'll be happy the day we can support ourselves and not need it . but until then it's also putting food on the table for us and our kids .

i dont have a problem with people getting it, i have a problem that people that can't or dont want to have kids get nothing.
and then if you take it one step further, people have to pay for invitro say they can have kids. why dont they get a handout ?

Originally Posted by Fusion

What's wrong with getting the parenting payment . If it wasn't for it i could tell you now we would be in a gutter asking for change . we bust our butt's just as hard as anyone else . It's just our jobs pay bugger all . we have never been in a spot to have investments or been lucky enough to have any .

I'll be happy the day we can support ourselves and not need it . but until then it's also putting food on the table for us and our kids .

I think what rosscoe is trying to say is, that from what he sees in his job is families (term used loosely) that would rather spend the money on a new TV or Grog, than saving the money to spend on school excursions and the like.

This does not apply to families like yours Fusion, you sound like an honest hard working lot, but Giving government handouts as big fat cheques is a waste of time to help the economy. To really help, they need to be able to control where the money is spent.

My Mrs will probably receive a cheque, and that money will go towards the new engine for the car, which in turn will be spent at an engine rebuilder, who will buy from a supplier, who will... the chain goes on, and hopefully it gets kept in Oz. and not go to some CEO who earns more money than can be spent in one year. And why does Sol Trujillo (spelling) earn $10mil per year, I mean how many ferraris can you buy? Why not an honest days pay for an honest days job/responisbility, without being excessive.


Stu