Ruds Hand Out

**Fusion** · 3rd February 2009, 08:06 PM

Hey Crump . I like the other warning one better . the white defender one

. Just my opinion

**Gooner** · 3rd February 2009, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by Numpty's Missus

Bagging Kevin Rudd is hardy productive nor fair. He is not the cause of all the countries problems. He inherited most of them from the previous govt.

So bagging John Howard and the Libs is productive and fair???
Wonder where Kevin thinks all this money he is splashing around actually came from.

Tombie · 3rd February 2009, 08:07 PM

OK lets understand the reason for the handout...

An OFFICIAL recession is 3 months of zero/ negative growth...

By doing the handout in December they removed the 3rd month into positive and cancelled the official recession...

Interestingly the NEXT handout is in the next "3rd" month and will cancel the OFFICIAL recession again...

See whats happening here?

**Davy** · 3rd February 2009, 08:08 PM

How much does anyone want to bet me both parties will be in my town very soon promising and vote catching?

Davy

**hoadie72** · 3rd February 2009, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by LandyAndy

Better off in my opinion with across the board tax relief.

I think the IMF came out last week and said tax relief doesn't make any difference - it doesn't encourage people to spend or something to that effect; they'll either save the extra take home income or put it into their mortgage or pay off credit cards. I guess getting a largish lump sump payment encourages people to go out and spend.

All speculation on my part tho

**hoadie72** · 3rd February 2009, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by Gooner

So bagging John Howard and the Libs is productive and fair???
Wonder where Kevin thinks all this money he is splashing around actually came from.

Well it's not going to be coming from the resources sector, who propped up the economy for the last few years!

**BilboBoggles** · 3rd February 2009, 08:13 PM

How about.

Get rid of FBT. For the next 5 years allow employers to salary package anything. This would encourage people to go out and get new cars boats laptops etc.

**Davy** · 3rd February 2009, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

Great idea!

or how about a water pipeline from oh, lets say Ingham(

)
to the rest of Australia?

Lots of BIG things we could spend LOTS of dollars on,,

rather than LG tellys

Where are you going to find a pipe THAT big!

Can you set it up tonight PLEASE!!

**maddos** · 3rd February 2009, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by Rosscoe68

this will cause a stir. In my opinion rudd has just bought himself some more votes. the kind of ppl that voted for him in the first place are "usually" (please forgive for the generalisation) the sort of people that live off the government anyhow. single parents, low income couples with several children and the likes. people that try and make themselves nondependant on the government by property investment or the likes get nothing. yes, it annoys me that the taxes i pay get handed out to other people and i get zip. only one thing that may be a go is the insulation thing, i might get some worth, although theres probly a catch so investors dont get it.

Hmm, that is a large generalisation. Given that Rudd won the last election and assuming most of the population knew where their preferences were being directed, that means according to your description, more than 50% of the population live off the govt., are single parents, or low income couples with several children. hmmm.....

**101 Ron** · 3rd February 2009, 08:23 PM

My 950 dollars will just go back to the government in the tax increases I get every year.
So what is the point.
The roof insulation thing doesn't do much except to make the government feel green.
How much energy goes into making glass wool.....the mining the energy to transport and melt the materials........most people do not take into account the life cycle of things.
I am not against the idea of insulation in houses, but the best time to fit it is when the house is new.
The country is going into deep dept and the curent and next generation will be stuck wasting money paying interest on a principal which we may not pay back.
It would be wiser to spend smaller amounts of money on roads ,ports, rail, dams and bridges with contracts going to small local Australian firms where possible.( we will own these things instead of a chinese tv company )
That way the economy is helped in the right way as small business is the back bone of Aust and we end up with thing which will help us in the future instead of a may or may not work one shot effort.
Payroll tax is a employment tax and should be scrapped and taxes reduced for Aust companys which employ apprentices and produce goods.

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