Ah, but think of those sunny days when the batteries are full and every appliance is running madly.
Must happen a couple of times a year.
Simon
Basically i live in a house which uses solar power. We have 8 pannels on the roof and a wind generator. This post is a method of venting my stress of how bad it is! even with all the pannels and wind generator all i had on today was a computer fridge and freezer! and the tv for maybe an hour all other appliences are turned off no standby!
And even after a great sunny day like today we always have to put the loud generator on to get through the night and on rainy days we need it going all day.
So in conclusion i dont care how good the technology gets im never electing for solar power on my individual home i am happy to back large wind fars and solar plants to power homes but i will never pay for a individual system!
Venting completed![]()
Ah, but think of those sunny days when the batteries are full and every appliance is running madly.
Must happen a couple of times a year.
Simon
Yeah but no matter how nice the day we need the generator on that night
and between the diesel generator running the pool pump (this is not hooked up to our solar as it is too draining), and the petrol generator which is next to my bedroom window! i find nights rather frustrating!
that systems worth about 2000 watts and if your running the deep cycle batteries down all the time then they wont last long.....
any odds of putting most of the stuff on the grid and keeping the solar for things like lighting fanstv and computers?
Dave
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Its a $30,000 dollar system and we were promised it would be able to run all that we would require and that it could hold enough power to last 10days without charge we got jibbed
8 panels I'm guessing say 80 Watts each ? so 640 Watts total generation capacity in full sun.( exluding wind power ) ?
What capacity do you have in your batteries ( in terms of total amp hours ) ?
Those systems need regular maintenance. ( not saying you don't with yours ). Many years ago, we were visiting some hippie friends who live in the bush - he was complaining his solar system ( about the same size as yours ) wasn't working properly. So I poked around with his multimeter. Turned out there was about a half volt drop between each battery because of gunk and corrosion on the terminals. We took all the batteries apart and cleaned all the terminals with baking soda solution - worked a treat after that. Ran all their lights, TV, and occassional power tools no probs.
Fascinating that you have to run a diesel generator to generate power to run an electric pump to filter the pool. For how many hours a day? I would be thinking of powering the pump another way.
I dare say that most of your appliances are still 240v. There are some great appliances that are built for the recreational market that will service your home more economically.
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We run it three hours a day!
I think that your system is about half the size you need. My system has a total of twenty panels, sixteen on trackers and four fixed. It cost about the same as yours. It normally runs refrigerator, freezer, computer, TV, lights, power tools. For the first six months we had it installed we did not run the generator at all, and I think we only ran it about three times in the first year.
Since then, the trackers have failed (and the manufacturer no longer exists, and I can't even get circuit diagrams - and they filed the numbers off the ICs!) and my batteries are getting old, so I have to run the generator about once a week on average. You have to watch power useage - forget any heating device, except a microwave is OK because you don't use it for long, watch "standby" power use, no big TVs, get six star fridge and freezer, forget airconditioning.
Zulu Delta 534 - we looked at running low voltage appliances rather than 240v. In theory, you save on the conversion, and the appliances are generally more efficient. However, in practice, the low voltage appliances usually cost around double the price of the 240v one, and there are far fewer to choose from. A further complication is that for a house size system you are looking at 24 or probably 48volts (because there is a limit to the size of single cells you can manhandle, and you don't want to run cells in parallel if possible).
In our setup, the major drains are the fridge and freezer (and I recently bought a new fridge that uses less than half the power that the one bought fifteen years ago does). We have two identical 24v systems and inverters, one running the fridge and one the freezer, each with other bits of the house on them (for example, behind my computer desk there are two four way power points, one on each system, and I swap bits between them depending on how the useage on each system is going.
Hope this helps someone.
John
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Your experiences confirm top me what I have long suspected. That solar is infant technology and pretty unreliable. It's use in cities as opposed to remote locations is bordering on ludicrous.
I went to White Cliffs recently to be asked by a local what I thought was the best day they had ever had. I had no idea. The person said "the day they connected the grid" and decommissioned the spectacular but unsuccessful solar plant.
I believe an element of the Green's agenda is that it is sinful to have appliances and particularly aircon.
Their simplistic insistence that we all should live on solar and wind is really a religious conviction and anyone who disagrees is a heretic to be burnt at the stake.
On a similar issue I recall recently talking to a friend and saying that we only used 100litres per person per day of town water, and I felt this is pretty good seeing the objective was 145litres.
His first response was "do you have a diswasher?" "get rid of it". I am unclean. A heretic.
I recall a similar thread on this forum some time ago when someone claimed wind was great and that it would only cost about 67cents a KW to produce. I looked at my bill and I pay 13cents a KW at retail. Who of us would like to ( or could) pay 6-10 times the current cost for power.
Even if coal generation cost doubled or tripled with the cost of cleaning the CO2 or sequestration, solar and wind can only be fringe technologies and to think otherwise I fear is "cloud cookoo land"
Regard sPhilip A
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