Thread: which or what club to join

Unfortunatly (or fortunatly) all clubs will want you to complete a course so they can not be held responsible if you @#*? &% as most of us do very occasionally. You only have to it once then its done.Having said that im not in any clubs i go 4x4 with friends from different clubs toyos and susuki,s etc as clubs dont always get on with each other.I did 4x4 course in army two weeks full time plus recovery, bush repairs everything and would still have to do course iof i joined a club.

Originally Posted by bussy1963

Cant seen what some snotty nosed kid could teach me. Like most of us here we have chosen to forget more than the kid could teach.

Im open to suggestions

I find this quite disappointing. Don't be too proud. Although you'd be surprised at times how little they know about some things, you'll also be surprised at how much they know about other things. Its good to see things done differently from how its always been done for the last 50 years.

Do you still decend in low first with the feet off the pedal in fear of losing control. Let a youngun show how its now done - with better control.

mate with comments like that its probably best you don't join a club

my current club is the second 4wd club i have been involved with. yes i did the mandatory training day with the first club and am attending a training day tomorrow with my current club, i have also done driver training with my previous two jobs......nobody knows everything and i'm sure i will pick up something and maybe pass on a thing or two to a member that has maybe never been offroad

the way i see it is clubs need to set a minimum standard to ensure everybody is at the same level, 4wd skills is only one part of it, the also bring you up to speed on how the club operate on trips, convoy procedure etc. the days are normally free, it does involve 4wding, you get to meet club members, you get to see what skills are within the club, if you go with the right attitude and you have the right skills you can offer your services to help out on training days and pass your wealth of knowledge onto novice drivers. i doubt clubs appoint traininers willie nillie, they are generally experienced in 4wd driving and recovery, they are also very committed club members and they always carry a hanky just incase their nose starts to run.

do your research i'm sure there is a club that will suit your needs

Yeah I agree everybody can learn something.

I think my point was lost during my first thread. every club i have looked at has greeted me with " Oh a new member the fridge is over there put the money in the box". and then they go on to tell you how they got bogged and ripped up a track trying to get out of the situation.

It might seen to be a hospitality thing but when members you see there are knocking back copious amounts of booze the hoping into there vehicles to go home doesn't give you much confidence in there abilities.

but as i said im open to suggestions

I would suggest you rethink what you want (or don't want) out of a club before going any further. Like the others have mentioned I find your attitude somewhat disappointing.

I'd also be very surprised if any of us would confess to being even 1/10th as good an off-road driver as you believe yourself to be. My attitude is I can always learn something from someone and maybe even teach them something as well. Age is certainly no barrier either.

On reading your last post though I think you make a much more valid point. I too don't think any club should be irresponsible or encourage off-roading that is destructive in its nature.

Bussy,

Obviously you like Land Rovers.... or you wouldn't be here. Have you taken a look at LROCV ? http://www.lrocv.com.au

Maybe come along to one or two monthly meetings, get a feel for the club. visitors are always welcome.

As you said different people have different needs, so I agree it's important to find a club that suits yours. One advantage of LROCV is that its big... that means a wide variety of activities, from people that want to go hard trips to people that prefer outback touring and everything in between.

Why don't you pop along to the Vic 4wd show at Wandin? http://www.victorian4wdshow.com.au It's run by LROCV so you could find out more about the club there and usually there are other 4wd clubs represented as well.

And you may well catch up with quite a few people from this forum too.

Cheers, Mark

Not to devalue your skills at all mate, but what's to stop some know it all coming in with an "I know everything, I've been driving since cars were invented etc etc" when their skills aren't up to scratch?

There are plenty of cowboys out there who have taught themselves the wrong thing and have managed to survive doing the wrong thing for years. What about that snatch strap that lets go and kills a fellow club member's "snot nosed kid" thanks to said cowboy?

My point is, you can't apply the benefit of the doubt selectively. Everyone does the same course. Everyone is on the same page. Morons who think they know better and are a danger can be failed and essentially taken out of the equation for trips. People like yourself will have no trouble and can go away with your new mates rest assured that some ignoramus isn't going to put a D-Shackle through your skull...

You are looking at it the wrong way I think. Look at it as a trip to show that you do know what you are doing, and to align your modus operandi with that of the other club members.


I am a newer member of Land Rover Owners Club (Sydney) and whilst I am quite comfortable off road thanks to an on and off rural upbringing, I am still attending a club course not only as a requirement, but to expand and refine my skills, see how others work and to HAVE FUN!


Your second point is very valid however - that sort of behaviour belongs on South African 4WD TV shows...


Good luck in whatever you decide.
Shonky - a humble snot nosed kid.

Originally Posted by Slunnie

ILet a youngun show how its now done - with better control.

Head under dash, screaming loudly?