300 tdi Fuel Economy - snake oil??

Uhh!, tell me if I'm wrong, but wasn't yesterday the 1st of April, AKA April Fools Day, good one Brian and welcome to the Forum, Regards Frank.

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Originally Posted by Tank

Uhh!, tell me if I'm wrong, but wasn't yesterday the 1st of April, AKA April Fools Day, good one Brian and welcome to the Forum, Regards Frank.

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I was thinking the same thing ... if this was a joke it worked, well done Brian! :D

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Originally Posted by Bigmark

Hey Brian and andy, hate to tell you this but there are no metal particles in fuel so its not going to work- in fact you would have less fuel economy due to the extra weight and stupidity. I mean how could you actually come to the point where you pay someone for this sort of thing- you are the type of people that salesman like or are you the salesman.
Come on are you the Smart salesman or the stupid consumer.

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Bigmark, I don't know about magnets nor do I have any on my TDi fuel line.

I was just letting people know about Brians character. It would be a shame if he decided not to post topics he is interested in or believes other may find informative.

If you have an opinion either for, or against a product, debate the product not the person.





Cheers Andy

I remember reading about magnets being used to kill bacteria in diesel. This was done the same way Brian's magnets are placed. People claim it works, think I read about it in 4x4 Australia Mag.
Welcome to the forum.



Disclaimer: Zute has no association with 4x4 Australia magazine.

Here's a couple of excerpts from the patents office:

Background of the Invention

Hydro carbon fuels lack stability and the variability of the stability of these hydrocarbon fuels fluctuates due to storage conditions, refining methods, transportation methods, as well as environmental conditions resulting in a clustering of molecules. As the clustering of molecules increases the burn ability of the fuels decreases. Fuel efficiency drops, maintenance issues increase and an over all lack of efficiency besets the systems using these fuels as their energy source. Some of this activity is compounded through introduced bio-organisms such as bacteria, molds, fungus and other microbial activity. But much of it is the result of a polymerization and agglomerations of the organic compounds in the hydro carbon fuels. The problem has been on how to prevent and or correct these issues and stabilize the fuels until they can be burned.

Claim
A magnetic hydrocarbon treatment device and method for magnetic treatment of hydrocarbon fuel flowing through a fuel conduit for greater fuel efficiency and reduced emissions, comprising:means for pulling the positive charged carbon atoms to the outside of the pipe while pushing the negatively charged hydrogen atoms to the center;means for permitting the application of the magnets in a uniform and consistent manner to the fuel conduit;means for correctly positioning and maintaining the magnets in their proper relationship to the fuel line;means for greater fuel efficiency and reduction of harmful pollutants;means for separating the carbon and hydrogen elements for greater fuel efficiency and lower pollution; andmeans for the reduction of the emissions of the flu gases eliminating many of the pollutants emitted into the atmosphere.




I'm guessing from this, that the crappier the fuel is, the better the product will work. Probably explains some claims it does work, while others it is immeasurable...
Site: Magnetic hydrocarbon treatment device and method - Patent

Thanks Cooper,
Nah appreciate the banter and stuff. Not keen on the personal attacks though...
Wasn't meant to be an April Fools Joke, but I think it turned out to be a corker!

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Originally Posted by brianwood

Here's a couple of excerpts from the patents office:






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To get a patent you don't have to prove that your idea works, just that it is new. There are LOTS of patents for "free energy" devices, which we all know don't work.

I knows it...
But, it gives their reasonings - not any proof as such...

You know, I got a similar caning when I bought my first Landrover 5 years ago. The Toyota mob told me what a fool I was buying such an unreliable brand...

Tells you a bit about me - I don't really care what others say, I'll find out for myself. Its been the best vehicle I've ever owned in many respects. And yes, the D1 is less reliable than the 80 I had, but I enjoy working on it. So who's right and who's wrong?
Maybe there's no answer to that...

Brian,
Do you accually have a Disco??? if so, What year and any pix of the Magnets on the lines???

Yes I do. As my neighbour Andy testifies in this thread...
I've got a post in the Introductions forum...
Have just fininshed a camper trailer which I want to put pictures on this forum, so will include D1 then...