300 tdi Fuel Economy - snake oil??

Hey Brian and andy, hate to tell you this but there are no metal particles in fuel so its not going to work- in fact you would have less fuel economy due to the extra weight and stupidity. I mean how could you actually come to the point where you pay someone for this sort of thing- you are the type of people that salesman like or are you the salesman.
Come on are you the Smart salesman or the stupid consumer.

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Originally Posted by Bigmark

Come on are you the Smart salesman or the stupid consumer.

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Definitely not the former as no one is convinced.:)

Garry

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Originally Posted by brianwood

Thanks too Larns, appreciate the welcome.
Yeah was talking to my wife last night about the burning at the stake I got. She just laughed. The other thing I didn't mention which is different is I've started putting Wynns EDT in my tank (and NO I'm not selling this either, blimey)
But I don't think the Wynns stuff is supposed to increase economy. Any ideas???

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Hey Brian - don't give up! This site is full of sceptics (I am one) but the info you'll get here on Land Rovers (and a lot of other topics) is excellent. Just an unfortunate early topic to be posting :D

I see you have another post about your Disco so am guessing you are a real LR owner.

In a week this topic will have died and everyone will have moved on.

Keep posting.

Cheers
David

I'm probably wasting my time trying to reason with someone like bigmark...
But you'd be a fool to think that magnetism only affects metals
Ever heard of MRI? Magnetic Resonance Imaging is used by health professionals to scan a patient surrounded by a strong magnet. Most people I know aren't made of metal...
And that's just one example

MRI works on us because of the hydrogen atoms in our body and their propensity to line up when subjected to a magnetic field.....

Thanks spudboy.
I'm guessing the same hydrogen atoms in a hydrocarbon chain (ie diesel) have a similar propensity to polarise when subjected to strong magnetic fields???

Best you don't go there!!! Let this one die ;)

Brian, a 1L/100 difference (10%) could easily be due to the placebo effect.

It is claimed these magnets ionise the molecules. This is physically impossible, you need ionising radiation to do that.

Thanks Ben,
Am happy to accept that.
I admit the sprook about these products is very unscientific, and the question left unanswered is: if they work, why don't cars come out with them already???
Interestingly, they claim that gas burns a different colour when magnets are placed around the gasline. What accounts for this I wonder? I haven't tried it, so don't know... Be a good one to test on a Bunsen burner in high-school

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Originally Posted by brianwood

Thanks spudboy.
I'm guessing the same hydrogen atoms in a hydrocarbon chain (ie diesel) have a similar propensity to polarise when subjected to strong magnetic fields???

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Brian, bringing up MRI is a great help to DISPROVE any such device.

MRI's work by applying a VERY STRONG magnetic field (think 1000x these magnets) to re-align the "spin" of H atoms within selected molecules. The instant the field is removed, EVERYTHING RETUNS TO THE WAY IT WAS BEFORE.

That is how MRIs can produce images - the megnetic field is pulsed, and the (temporary) realignment produces a measurable radio frequency emission.

So even by the time the fuel got to your fuel pump, any slight change would have been lost.