Lathes

**BMKal** · 11th May 2009, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

Unless you know something I don't, it is used 3 phase motors that are cheap. Usually selling at auction for scrap value, a couple of hundred dollars a pallet. Good used 240 volt motors over 1 hp are hard to find and usually sell high. Plenty of small 240 volt motors about and 2800rpm ones but not the more powerful ones at 1400rpm. Reason is most equipment with that sort of power is made with three phase motors.

That Sheraton should be selling for a good bit more than that if it is OK. It is a bargain if it is a good one. Not hard to get $1500 or more for a good one like that.

Was thinking more along the lines that it's unlikely that there'll be a three phase supply where this lathe is going to end up.

And if you have the right contacts (which I'm sure Andrew has), cheap single phase motors aren't hard to find.

**Bigbjorn** · 11th May 2009, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by EchiDna

well based on the current price ($1025) this one is better value IMHO...

HERCUS 260 PECISION WORKSHOP LATHE - eBay Equipment, Machinery, Metalworking, Metalworking, Woodworking, Business, Industrial. (end time 11-May-09 20:00:00 AEST)

sorry stupid long ebay links...

That Hercus looks to be in very good condition for its age. It is probably 30-40 years old, short V-bed, still uses belt drive spindle and change gears, and feed is from the lead screw not a separate feed shaft. Very old design and limited capacity lacking power. Not bad for a model maker or auto electrician. Price is fair for an old Hercus.

**Taz** · 11th May 2009, 08:15 PM

Our OH&S guy at work started posting up pictures of a nasty lathe accident that really makes you think... some guy had got his clothes caught in the chuck and was dragged in. The picture shows him still slumped over the chuck with half his brains missing where the chuck jaws had chewed half way into his head, and he had an eye hanging by a tenden off to one side. The picture must have been taken wihtin minutes of the accident because his blood/brains were more pink than red. I've spent 5years as an instrument technician and at first I thought this was just shock tactics, but upon reflection I thought it was a good warning for those who lack confidence with these machines, particularly powerful ones.

What ever you buy - make sure it has a big-arse emergency stop button within easy reach!

PS - I'm very envious! Lindsay is a lucky lad to have a Dad like u!

**Bigbjorn** · 12th May 2009, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by BMKal

Was thinking more along the lines that it's unlikely that there'll be a three phase supply where this lathe is going to end up.

And if you have the right contacts (which I'm sure Andrew has), cheap single phase motors aren't hard to find.

Just got quoted $420 plus GST for a 240volt 2.2kw 1400 rpm motor, Australian made, plus reversing switch if needed $70 plus GST.

**LandyAndy** · 12th May 2009, 08:32 PM

Hey Taz
A few years back a local Sod Buster was preparing his 5 in 1 bin for seeding(they use them to fill seed/super into their seeders) It was on its stand,not fitted to the truck as they do.He caught his threadbare jumper sleeve on the shaft whilst runing,it lifted him 4 feet off the ground,spun him around the shaft twice before the jumper failed.Lucky to escape with a broken arm as his worst injury.Was bruised from head to toe

Lindsay is well aware of Oc health,they really hammer them at school before letting them loose on the tools

Thanks
Andrew

**LandyAndy** · 12th July 2009, 07:33 PM

I took Lindsay up to look at a few Lathes on friday.
Was quite dissapointed in the quality of the cheaper ones and lack of accesories supplied.
Was really impressed with the guy at Hare&Forbes.
I had to convince him to deal with Lindsay not me as I nothing about them.He and Lindsay hit it off big time.He told me how impressed he was with Lindsays product knowledge.Anyway they settled upon a HAFCO AL320G.Yes alot more than I want to pay,but it is an industrial machine.It has a few extra bits the cheapies dont.Now we just got to sort out some $$$,$3240 of them to be precise

This includes all his tooling needed.
Would look real nice in my shed,but Im told Im not clever enough so I wont be able to use it.
He is hoping to do cash jobs with it

Anybody able to tell us if the HAFCO gear is as good as it looks???
https://www.machineryhouse.com.au/Pr...stockCode=L141
Andrew

**John W** · 12th July 2009, 07:52 PM

Sorry can't say I know if it works as good as it looks but my tongue is hanging out, it looks S...Hot, seriously jealous. Enjoy

**CraigE** · 12th July 2009, 08:20 PM

Seen some impressive fireworks bombs on the beach(IN COMPLETELY SAFE CONDITIONS)

MMM, I seem to recall something like that.

**LandyAndy** · 12th July 2009, 08:26 PM

Craig
He has ADVANCED heaps since then!!!
Makes his own Black Powder
Makes his own air powered guns(300+PSI)
Makes his own fuses
Quite the trainee terrorist

Andrew

**Bigbjorn** · 13th July 2009, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by LandyAndy

I took Lindsay up to look at a few Lathes on friday.
Was quite dissapointed in the quality of the cheaper ones and lack of accesories supplied.
Was really impressed with the guy at Hare&Forbes.
I had to convince him to deal with Lindsay not me as I nothing about them.He and Lindsay hit it off big time.He told me how impressed he was with Lindsays product knowledge.Anyway they settled upon a HAFCO AL320G.Yes alot more than I want to pay,but it is an industrial machine.It has a few extra bits the cheapies dont.Now we just got to sort out some $$$,$3240 of them to be precise

This includes all his tooling needed.
Would look real nice in my shed,but Im told Im not clever enough so I wont be able to use it.
He is hoping to do cash jobs with it

Anybody able to tell us if the HAFCO gear is as good as it looks???
https://www.machineryhouse.com.au/Pr...stockCode=L141
Andrew

That is a generic Chinese lathe sold by all and sundry under a variety of names. Price is OK. Good hobby engineers or model makers lathe. Suits lighter work like auto sparkies, fridgies, or motor mechanics. Older design, uses belt drives and back gears for two speed ranges and change gears for metric screwcutting. Uses 1/2"/12mm tool holders. I would have gone for an AL340 or 540 myself but they are a good bit more money. I like the extra length and extra power. Does yours have a cam-lock spindle? My Hare and Forbes catalogue doesn't mention the type of spindle nose.

You will soon be buying him accessories and tooling. Live centre, carbide tipped half centre, some TC insert tool holders and spare inserts, dial indicator and mag. base, couple of smaller micrometers for a start, decent size drill chuck on an MT arbor, should soon be on your shopping list.

If he is going to use TC tools he will need to experiment a bit with speeds and feeds as that little lathe has only 1 hp so you will not be able to take heavy cuts. Higher speeds and fine feeds should be the way to get good finish with TC tools.

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