Thread: IS There A Santa Claus??????

LMFAO

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

Consider the following:

1) No known species of reindeer can fly. But there are 300,000 species of living organisms yet to be classified, and while most of these are insects and germs, this does not COMPLETELY rule out flying reindeer which only Santa has ever seen.

2) There are 2 billion children (persons under 18) in the world. BUT since Santa doesn't (appear) to handle the Muslim, Hindu, Jewish and Buddhist children, that reduces the workload to 15% of the total - 378 million according to Population Reference Bureau. At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per household, that's 91.8 million homes. One presumes there's at least one good child in each.

3) Santa has 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to west (which seems logical).

This works out to 822.6 visits per second. This is to say that for each Christian household with good children, Santa has 1/1000th of a second to park, hop out of the sleigh, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left, get back up the chimney, get back into the sleigh and move on to the next house.

Assuming that each of these 91.8 million stops are evenly distributed around the earth (which, of course, we know to be false but for the purposes of our calculations we will accept), we are now talking about .78 miles per household, a total trip of 75-1/2 million miles, not counting stops to do what most of us must do at least once every 31 hours, plus feeding and etc.

This means that Santa's sleigh is moving at 650 miles per second, 3,000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest man- made vehicle on earth, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second - a conventional reindeer can run, tops, 15 miles per hour.

4) The payload on the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium-sized lego set (2 pounds), the sleigh is carrying 321,300 tons, not counting Santa, who is invariably described as overweight.

On land, conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300 pounds. Even granting that 'flying reindeer' (see point #1) could pull TEN TIMES the normal amount, we cannot do the job with eight, or even nine.

We need 214,200 reindeer. This increases the payload - not even counting the weight of the sleigh - to 353,430 tons. Again, for comparison - this is four times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth.

5) 353,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air resistance - this will heat the reindeer up in the same fashion as spacecraft re-entering the earth's atmosphere. The lead pair of reindeer will absorb 14.3 QUINTILLION joules of energy. Per second. Each.

In short, they will burst into flame almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them, and create deafening sonic booms in their wake. The entire reindeer team will be vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a second.

Santa, meanwhile, will be subjected to centrifugal forces 17,500.06 times greater than gravity. A 250-pound Santa (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of his sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds of force.> In conclusion - If Santa ever DID deliver presents on Christmas Eve, he's dead now.

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Mrs ho har

How old are they Simon???. They are only kids once let them find out later. The smiles on my kids faces that he brings i will tell them when they are 21.

Of course he exists...his name is Fred Claus (and it just happens to be a movie)

Blknight.aus that reply was classic lol - good laugh.

Back on topic though, in reality it is deception. Is it setting a bad example? That's a hard one to answer honestly. Is it just a harmless part of growing up? Maybe, or maybe not. I can only remember once visiting Santa when I was a kid, and my parents never led me on to believe it was true...they also didn't come out and say it was false either. Really I think it should be told in the context of fairy tails.

There are other area's of Christmas that I think should be at least given equal coverage - like focusing on what I can give instead of receive (with the children especially), spending time investing in relationships that matter and yes even though the real origins of Christmas aren't Christian I think it's good to give thought to the implications of Jesus Christ coming to this earth mean to us. For believer or non-believer you would have to admit that his life and death have radically affected history...I think the world would be a better place if people lived their lives by more of the principles he taught...

OK, I'll get off my soapbox now.

I trust you are familiar with this response from 1897.

Newseum - Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus

Dont tell them, let them work it out for themselves. In the mean time perpetuate the childhood story which has been around causing zero mental health problems for over 100 years (dont know when it started).

Dont over analyse this stuff, there is no right and wrong and the world has grown up on myths and legends since the idea was able to be conveyed. I think you would have to be a stuck up ***** to actually think you can predict a positive or negative outcome to wether kids should belive in things which are not true untill an age where they can reason for themselves. It it was not santa, in another world it would have been something else.

If you want to end santa, you may as well get them started on life long careers, financial planning, experience in factory work, homework stress relief methods, lessons in the dangers of low school marks, an intorduction to horrible car accidents, oh and how to appreciate your parents more for buying your christmas presents.

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

this will heat the reindeer up in the same fashion as spacecraft re-entering the earth's atmosphere

Why the hell do you think Rudolf has a red nose? It's not from drinking too many gin and tonics.


I don't think I have ever heard of a kid growing up to be a misfit because they suddenly find out that their parents have been lying about Santa Clause. "Your honour, I only committed perjury because my parents lied to me for years about Santa."

And what about all those other lies parents tell?? Especially the ones that end up with some poor kid being ripped to shreds on Australian Idol because their parents never told them the truth about why Nanna's ears started bleeding at the school concert.

and to the comment about how well behaved the kids will be if they know it is up to you to decide if they have been good enough.

I have a friend who believes it's wrong to lie to kids and tell them Santa is real (she tells them he is just a fairy tale) .. Now this is the same person that tells her kids when their pet mouse died that he was just sleeping. I think you will find that most people who tell their kids that Santa is not real, due to not wanting to lie to their kids, tell them little white lies all the time. Do you tell your kid that the noises coming from the bedroom some nights are Mummy and Daddy wrestling or tickling each other or the truth ??

Come on we are kids only once .. leave all the disappointments for when we are adults

Just my 2c worth

And yes I will be lying to my son about Santa for as long as I can.