hi
long as you can handle "slow" it will be fine.. will be fine with one in it but with 5 in it you will be taking your time so to speak...
the crossflow conversions are usually a pretty good thing, esp if you have a toro overdrive...
Hi, I'm a new member and was wondering if anyone can help with some info?
I have series III station wagon that I am currently restoring. It has a FORD crossflow motor, was curious to know how it would perform with a 2.25 diesel.
I'm looking to return it to as close to original as I can. Should be much better on the gearbox and running gear.
hi
long as you can handle "slow" it will be fine.. will be fine with one in it but with 5 in it you will be taking your time so to speak...
the crossflow conversions are usually a pretty good thing, esp if you have a toro overdrive...
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thanks for that
would a 2.25 petrol be better?????
In a wagon a 2.25 Diesel was veerryy slow the 2.25 Petrol was ok at best.
The Ford I would of thought would be a good thing provided the gearbox was good and you did something with the gearing.
im unaware of how the vechile performs with the ford motor as i brought it with a shattered gear box which is currently being rebuilt. would prefer not to repeat the drama myself
thanks for your help
The 2,25 diesel is a slow reving long stroke motor, with indirect injection, precombustion chambers, no turbo, and a narrow rev range for its best power and torque. The toro overdrive gearbox is strong enough to be used as a splitter, allowing you to keep the motor in the right rev range to let it work.
Yes, they are slow on the road, compared to modern vehicles, but they pulled like a small ox. Under a heavy load, they refuse to die, and a well tuned example will pull from almost an idle, if you are in the right gearing for the situation. The toro does improve your fuel economy, mostly by keeping the motor in its power band. This was a combination i had in my series 3 swb hardtop, for about 15 yrs. Its definetly, a work horse setup, not a show pony cruiser.
even the poorly tuned ones run like a glacier, slow but hard to stop...
if you get one get the crank rods and pistons matched up and balanced as best you can afford it..
if your brissy/ipswich way your welcome to come and have a look at fozzy with my $1K everyshortcuttaken rebuild special that I now have to regasket and post CCCCC probabley redo the rings.
summating what the others have said.
If youve never had one before the 2.25 diesel in stock trim is going to introduce you to a whole new world of slow.
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just out of curiousity how slow is slow? could you cruise on 80 to 90kph and would it be better in the bush
I question this description of the engine. It is oversquare (Bore 90.49mm and stroke 88.9mm) so I am at a loss to see how this can be described as "long stroke". It is hardly slow revving - with governed rpm of 4000, it revs higher than most similar sized diesels today. And with a spread of 1750rpm for maximum torque to 4000rpm for maximum power, it is hard to see how you can say it has a narrow rev range for best power and torque. My experience is that the engine pulls with usable torque from stalling speed, perhaps 500rpm to governed maximum of 4000rpm, without any pronounced peak - I first used this engine in the Simpson Desert 45 years ago and the wide range of useful power was invaluable for getting over sandhills.
The rest of the description is pretty accurate, though. The big shortcoming is that even in 1961 when the engine was enlarged from 2.0 to 2.25 litres (and the maximum rpm increased from 3500 to 4000) the maximum power of 62bhp and torque of 103lb.ft. were not really adequate for the long wheelbase models. It is simply this low power and torque that is the problem, not the revs at which they are developed! Consider that the current defender 110 with a very similar vehicle mass (and identical shape) has double the power (albeit at lower rpm - 3500) and two and a half times the torque (albeit at a higher rpm - 2000) - and they are not generally considered high performance!
John
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hehehe Brings back memories now..... had a 1970 sIIa swb diesel back home for 8 years. Without an o/d it was a 40 mph cruiserwit the o/d it got to 50 mph cruiser! Yes... took a while to ge tthere but did!
Mates used to give me some hassle over it and it... ahem... performance. Fixed it by saying..... so can you tow a broken down Shogun (Pajero) at 40 mph comfortable? It could not be killed...... and just ran. Even towed out a relative's perkins powered Rangie when it got stuck!
Ahhh many greta memories of Lawrence.... god bless 'im!
Chris
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