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    Can the police hide whilst doing speed checks (NSW)?

    The question arises as Elisabeth noticed the police hiding up a laneway with radar/lidar set up on a tripod. The laneway allowed them to remain hidden whilst they aimed the radar/lidar at motorists travelling on the Gt Western Hwy at Faulconbridge. They were set up to grab people where the speed changes to 60km/h at the bottom of a hill.

    I didn't see them and may have been pinged. We were coming back from a remembrance motorcycle rally (for our late son) at Bathurst. I was riding, Elisabeth was driving.

    I thought the police had to be visible when doing speed checks in NSW.

    Naturally there was no sign displayed (the little blue one they usually have after a speed trap).
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    Don't know about NSW policy, but it's common practice over here.
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    I don't know about the eastern states but in SA & WA they carnt and if you prove it you normaly get off

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    If they're hiding, that validates my theory that the purpose of the exercise is revenue raising. Seeing a police vehicle (ie. visual deterrent) will do a far greater job in achieving the objectives of road safety.

    A lot in Vic seem to "hide" as well. Not so much hide as partially obscure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p38arover View Post
    The question arises as Elisabeth noticed the police hiding up a laneway with radar/lidar set up on a tripod.
    Ron

    Was it a radar or a camera on the tripod?

    The Police have been doing vehicle identification checks with cameras lately. The software in a computer attached to the camera reads the vehicle's Rego and compares it with a database of stolen vehicles, unregistered vehicles, vehicles with unpaid fines or people with arrest warrants from the household of the registered car. A positive match is radioed to Police further down the road, usually at an RBT station, where the vehicle is pulled in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B92 8NW View Post
    If they're hiding, that validates my theory that the purpose of the exercise is revenue raising. Seeing a police vehicle (ie. visual deterrent) will do a far greater job in achieving the objectives of road safety.

    A lot in Vic seem to "hide" as well. Not so much hide as partially obscure.
    In Vic a lot of the radar offences are recorded by civilian contractors, in civilian vehicles. Hiding can't get any worse than that.

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    Would you have noticed Ron?
    Its a busy road,,

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    Radar or Lidar...you would have been wheeled over. Speed camera has to be on the road the vehicle is travelling, not up a lane. As Diana said, may have been ANPR...automatic number plate recognition system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Ron

    Was it a radar or a camera on the tripod?

    The Police have been doing vehicle identification checks with cameras lately. The software in a computer attached to the camera reads the vehicle's Rego and compares it with a database of stolen vehicles, unregistered vehicles, vehicles with unpaid fines or people with arrest warrants from the household of the registered car. A positive match is radioed to Police further down the road, usually at an RBT station, where the vehicle is pulled in.

    Diana
    A good question, Diana. I saw no further police cars along that route (20km to home).

    Oddly enough, I'd been discussing that very subject this morning with Guy Stanford, Chairman of the Motorcycle Council of NSW over a campfire at McPhillamy Park (Mt Panorama) where we had camped overnight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MickS View Post
    Ron

    Radar or Lidar...you would have been wheeled over. Speed camera has to be on the road the vehicle is travelling, not up a lane. As Diana said, may have been ANPR...automatic number plate recognition system.
    Seems probable - with a tripod mounted lidarI guess it would be hard to target particular vehicles.

    Seeing police with speed measuring eqpt. is rare on the Gt. Western Hwy between Emu Plains and Mt. Vic as there are very few places they can set up with safety. Generally, I don't worry about the police except in a few well known spots where they can set up.

    In Emu Plains, the the HWP hides behind the bushes on the west-going on-ramp to the M4. I see him as I pass him going to work. They catch the drivers who are still slowing from the 110km/h section to the 90km/h section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hillbilliywheelchair View Post
    I don't know about the eastern states but in SA & WA they carnt and if you prove it you normaly get off
    I wish you luck Hillbilly.
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