h1n1 mark II

**JDNSW** · 17th June 2009, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by incisor

hope your right,

but like i said my reading leads me to believe otherwise....

One of the characteristics of Spanish flu was that it killed young healthy adults as well as, if not more than, the very young, very old and sick. To quote Wikipedia, "Most of its victims were healthy young adults, in contrast to most influenza outbreaks which predominantly affect juvenile, elderly, or otherwise weakened patients".

It is possible that this may be partly explained by the fact that it was spread by the demobilisation of troops from Europe in 1918-19, and these were mostly young and healthy adults, but this does not seem to me to be an adequate explanation.

"The unusually severe disease killed between 2 and 20% of those infected, as opposed to the more usual flu epidemic mortality rate of 0.1%"

John

**dullbird** · 17th June 2009, 08:03 PM

thats what I read.......but I dont think I read it on wiki....
or at least I never went to the site I clicked a link from some other site.

or maybe I did read it on there

....

I dont know where i bloody read it now but what you have written john sounds very familiar

**JDNSW** · 17th June 2009, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by dullbird

thats what I read.......but I dont think I read it on wiki....
or at least I never went to the site I clicked a link from some other site.

or maybe I did read it on there

....

I dont know where i bloody read it now but what you have written john sounds very familiar

Because Wikipedia is supposed to be fully referenced (and the Spanish Flu article is) it should read very like what you would read on any authoritative site or other reference.

John

Tombie · 17th June 2009, 08:32 PM

Amazing what nature creates to clear up the planet / reduce population etc isnt it...

Whilst its not a nice thought, a pandemic which kills millions is really the only way the population of this planet can remain in check with the resources of said planet....

Ironically, talking to a few friends who came back from USA recently (last week), the USA isnt doing much at all, no screening etc at airports...
In fact, it was harder for them to get back into Aus than into the USA.

But then, in the USA, normal flu kills thousands every year.... So nothing unusual.

Experts are nervous that, as a new strain, the swine flu will be harder to stop because there aren't any vaccines to fight it.
But even if there are swine-flu deaths outside Mexico -- and medical experts say there very well may be -- the virus would have a long way to go to match the roughly 36,000 deaths that seasonal influenza causes in the United States each year.

Regular flu has killed thousands since January - CNN.com

Worldwide, the annual death toll from the flu is estimated to be between 250,000 and 500,000.

So plenty of people go from 'regular' flu.....

**p38arover** · 17th June 2009, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by dullbird

Holy **** I never even heard of the spanish flu.....

Seriously?

**dullbird** · 17th June 2009, 09:14 PM

Yes seriously.....it was never covered in history Ron so why would I know.

I'm not the sort of person that researches pandemics unless one is on the horizon

**p38arover** · 17th June 2009, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by dullbird

Yes seriously.....it was never covered in history Ron so why would I know.

I'm not the sort of person that researches pandemics unless one is on the horizon

It's just something that has been mentioned in the media many times over the years.

**Mikes defender** · 18th June 2009, 12:46 AM

After reading the posts there are must be some medical people out there...

Is it true that those masks only last 10 minutes, and after that they are useless?

mike

**Captain_Rightfoot** · 18th June 2009, 06:01 AM

Very interesting. As someone with young kids it's scary because it's nearly impossible to stop them getting things at school...

**Lotz-A-Landies** · 18th June 2009, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by Mikes defender

After reading the posts there are must be some medical people out there...

Is it true that those masks only last 10 minutes, and after that they are useless?

mike

Mike

It depends on the brand and type, some are useless before they are put on. For example the white tissue paper ones you see so often used in Asia where they are held on by elastic loops around the ears. About the only things they do is prevent bugs (the ones with wings) flying into your mouth or anyone seeing your smile.

As soon as the material of the mask is wet the performance of any mask is inhibited, so if the wearer is sneezing or coughing sufficiently they may not last 10 minutes.

Diana

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