Thread: Hummer H1 vs Defender

people forget that the H1 was not built really as a geneal 4x4 vehicle, but mroe for desert regions where it excells. Everywheere else it's simply too wide to be of any use! And too expensive!

They are not really comparable vehicles. The Defender is available in a variety of body styles primarily as a civilian utility vehicle, with a few military derivatives, that are mostly very close to the civilian versions. In contrast, the H1 was a civilian version of a military vehicle, with little practical use in the civilian world.

The Defender is a direct evolution of the first Landrovers introduced in 1948, and the design has been constrained by this background, as well as the need to use shared components with other models. The H1, by contrast is a 1980s design from a blank sheet, with the development and design costs largely met by the military HMMV design it is derived from.

In off road performance, the H1 is almost certainly a better performer as a result of the portal axles - provided the track is wide enough for it! Its width, almost two feet wider than a Defender or any other normal light vehicle means that many offroad tracks are closed to it, as well as many narrow lanes in cities round the world. The H1 is also slightly higher and about a metre longer than the Defender90.

For load space the Defender wins hands down, as it does for load carrying ability, particularly the 130.

Hope this helps

John

Originally Posted by Phoenix

people forget that the H1 was not built really as a geneal 4x4 vehicle, but mroe for desert regions where it excells. Everywheere else it's simply too wide to be of any use! And too expensive!

wont be for to much longer with it going to china to be built ...we will see a massive inundation in the Australia market and coming form china to Australia it will be bloody cheap i can beat you ....lookout Australia the hummer is coming

cheers

If they built them with a bit more ruggedness i would buy one. I had a play with a H3 and wasnt too impressed. Surprisingly small luggage compartment.

Originally Posted by Mick-Kelly

If they built them with a bit more ruggedness i would buy one. I had a play with a H3 and wasnt too impressed. Surprisingly small luggage compartment.

i would ( and I'm ducking ) seriously think about a H1 but the h3 is crap, independent not for me

cheers

Originally Posted by cucinadio

wont be for to much longer with it going to china to be built ...we will see a massive inundation in the Australia market and coming form china to Australia it will be bloody cheap i can beat you ....lookout Australia the hummer is coming

cheers

I thought they were only taking over the H2 and H3? but will gladly stand corrected

Originally Posted by cucinadio

i would ( and I'm ducking ) seriously think about a H1 but the h3 is crap, independent not for me

cheers

The H1 is independent

Originally Posted by cucinadio

wont be for to much longer with it going to china to be built ...we will see a massive inundation in the Australia market and coming form china to Australia it will be bloody cheap i can beat you ....lookout Australia the hummer is coming

cheers

I doubt it will be cheaper. Most cars these days are built in cheap-labour countries and invariably the cost savings in this regard are pocketed by the manufacturer. They don't care about saving YOU money - they want to make THEMSELVES more!

As for the H1 inundating the AU market, I very much doubt that will happen either. Australians have shown time and time again that large American "SUV"s are not suited to this market, preferring lighter, smaller, cheaper Land Cruisers, Patrols, Defenders etc.

The Holden Suburban? Utter failure.
The more recent model release of the Ford F-Series? Popular with the horse floaters and Victorian SES and thats about it.
Hummer H3? Niche market for bling-wearing, bitch-toting, coke-dealing Kings Cross wildlife.

The H1 i the biggest of the big, the wankest of the *******, the yankiest of the yanks in a relatively conservative Australian market that favours bland but practical Jap and Euro 4WDs.


Good truck? for it's purpose (mil rig for desert environs) yes! For the Australian family? No. For the prada clad chapter president of your local inner city bikie gang? Ideal - in black with 24" rims thankyou.