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    I was so bored, I nodded off mid read.... seriously!!

    All those "new scientific studies" that get splashed out by A Current Affair, Today Tonight etc etc etc, how do you think they get money....??????

    How do you think journalists get paid..........?????

    HELLLLLLOOOOOOOOOO................!!!!!!!!!

    Just listen to an ad on the radio during the day like "..We tell you how a pen can seriously hurt you, even kill you...."

    The pen hurts you by sticking it up your nose.

    The pen kills you by sticking it up your nose a little too far....

    No actual merit in any of the studies, but out there, people sit back and say "....sh*t, I better be careful next time I have a pen in my hand and have the sudden urge to shove it up my shnoz, I might die!!!", and they seriously believe it, meanwhile some dipsh*t hard up journo with no credibility or talent other than editing the actual truth gets paid, the network gets paid by the corporate sponsor of the show and financially the world spins round at our expense.

    Throw in the Government with more pointless studies at taxpayers expense which prove nothing other than they can only conclude a Royal Commission into the study is required, because some judge thought that the $800,000 a year he earns wasnt enough so he thinks to himself "I'll ring my mate in Parliament and get a reccomendation for myself and 5 of my judge mates a nice little earner..." !!!!

    I despise self righteous imposing politicians, the media and in general anyone who preys on financial gain by trying to scare people out of their money.

    Much like Religious door knockers and those who tell you your going to hell if you dont repent, prey on the weak and the stupid and fill their heads full of sh*t.

    Brrrrr, bit cold in my study, think I'll just go turn the heater up........

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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigE View Post
    That is all fine and nuclear power is probablly one of the viable long term options once perfected a little more. For starters countries like Australia do not have the techniccal personel to run them
    they are just big steam turbines just like a cole fired power station

    Quote Originally Posted by CraigE View Post
    and we would struggle to attract techs from overseas.
    i would guess from maybe india Pakistan Iran Iraq any of the former soviet countries. just a guess but i think there may be a few who would like to live in a country where you are not constantly in fear of the security police and maybe you would like to earn a bit nor than 600 - 1200 USD a month ?

    but then maybe you think aussies are not that bright?

    Quote Originally Posted by CraigE View Post
    Then there is the issue of where to locate them. Can you honestly say you would be happy to have it built in your neighbourhood?
    come on this is australia. one of the biggest lumps of dirt with only what 20 million?
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    Would you also be happy to have the waste buried at your local tip? Most people would not and as the case has been want it somwhere else. Just look at what they wanted to do to WA, near where I used to live. At this point in time WA do nt produce Uranium (though that is set to change). We were expected to take all the waste from around the world. What a joke. The country that refines the yellow cake and then uses it in their refineries should also dispos of it as they are the ones that create the hazzardous waste product not the miner. As a secondary option it should be returned back to where it was mined, ot just to an isolated area near Kalgoorlie, just because the populous in the eastern states that benefit from it do not want it near them. If you want the benefits then you have to also take the associated costs.
    do you have any idea of what the refining process is ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clean32 View Post
    ............

    come on this is australia. one of the biggest lumps of dirt with only what 20 million?
    ...............

    And half of them live in two major cities, and most of the rest in another three cities, and in any case 80 - 90% live within 50km of the coast of "the world's largest island" (or smallest continent?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivesafe View Post
    Hardly what you would call “NEW” and as the two plants are also used to produce weapons grade Tritium and the profit made from the Tritium rods is a contributing factor in the running cost of the plant.
    Ummm! Something wrong here, Drivesafe. Tritium is a radioactive isotope of Hydrogen - a gas!! What's with the rods?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionel View Post
    Ummm! Something wrong here, Drivesafe. Tritium is a radioactive isotope of Hydrogen - a gas!! What's with the rods?

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    From wikipedia...

    Nuclear weapons

    Tritium is widely used in nuclear weapons for boosting a fission bomb or the fission primary of a thermonuclear weapon. Before detonation, a few grams of tritium-deuterium gas are injected into the hollow "pit" of fissile plutonium or uranium. The early stages of the fission chain reaction supply enough heat and compression to start DT fusion, then both fission and fusion proceed in parallel, the fission assisting the fusion by continuing heating and compression, and the fusion assisting the fission with highly energetic (14.1 MeV) neutrons. As the fission fuel depletes and also explodes outward, it falls below the density needed to stay critical by itself, but the fusion neutrons make the fission process progress faster and continue longer than it would without boosting. Increased yield comes overwhelmingly from the increase in fission; the energy released by the fusion itself is much smaller because the amount of fusion fuel is much smaller.

    Besides increased yield (for the same amount of fission fuel with vs. without boosting) and the possibility of variable yield (by varying the amount of fusion fuel), possibly even more important advantages are allowing the weapon (or primary of a weapon) to have a smaller amount of fissile material (eliminating the risk of predetonation by nearby nuclear explosions) and more relaxed requirements for implosion, allowing a smaller implosion system.

    Because the tritium in the warhead is continuously decaying, it is necessary to replenish it periodically. The estimated quantity needed is 4 grams per warhead.[3] To maintain constant inventory, 0.22 grams per warhead per year must be produced.

    As tritium quickly decays and is difficult to contain, the much larger secondary charge of a thermonuclear weapon instead uses lithium deuteride as its fusion fuel; during detonation, neutrons split lithium-6 into helium-4 and tritium; the tritium then fuses with deuterium, producing more neutrons. As this process requires a higher temperature for ignition, and produces fewer and less energetic neutrons (only D-D fusion and 7Li splitting are net neutron producers), LiD is not used for boosting, only for secondaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    From wikipedia...
    I know about tritium, but you can't make it into rods, for heaven's sake!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionel View Post
    I know about tritium, but you can't make it into rods, for heaven's sake!

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    They extract it from the spent rods and the thats probably the only reason the plant was completed, because of the military application of the spent fuel rods.

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    I love fission, specially when i catch sumthin.


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    Quote Originally Posted by drivesafe View Post
    They extract it from the spent rods and the thats probably the only reason the plant was completed, because of the military application of the spent fuel rods.
    It is a bit difficult to get the figures from the Wikipedia article on tritium, but it looks as if the commercial demand is several times the military demand. There would be no need to build a special reactor for the purpose, irradiation of lithium rods could be done in any operating reactor, including the one at Lucas Heights, whose main function is to irradiate materials for various commercial and medical purposes.

    Just because a reactor is used for a secondary function does not mean that is why it was built.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    And half of them live in two major cities, and most of the rest in another three cities, and in any case 80 - 90% live within 50km of the coast of "the world's largest island" (or smallest continent?)

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    and thats my point. build the thing some where else

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