This has got to worry Sydneysiders.

**V8Ian** · 9th July 2009, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

Guys who work for a local towing coy. tell me there are a few small cars they won't pick up with a hook truck. Apparently they sag a bit and doors, bonnet, boot etc. won't open. Don't know if this is an urban myth but they believe it and always send a tilt tray for certain makes/models. They reckon some of these cheap little jiggers are not much more than a plastic bag being towed around by the front wheel drive powertrain.

You rarely see a hook truck these days, reason, the windscreen is a structural part of most cars on the road. XD was the last Falcon fitted with a bench front seat, all police cars were fitted with such. Put 6 burley coppers in an XD and they had problems closing the doors, due to the sag!

**Captain_Rightfoot** · 9th July 2009, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by V8Ian

You rarely see a hook truck these days, reason, the windscreen is a structural part of most cars on the road. XD was the last Falcon fitted with a bench front seat, all police cars were fitted with such. Put 6 burley coppers in an XD and they had problems closing the doors, due to the sag!

Huh? I know they had them in the AU because a lady at school has one. I can't be bothered trawling the ford site to see if they still have them.

Au Falcon Front Bench Seat

malsgoing130 · 9th July 2009, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Shonky

We're whinging about Chinese build quality... anyone done a forum search on "Puma" lately?

ha ha ha thats a brilliant retort, Id say if they built them in china the quality could only improve

malsgoing130 · 9th July 2009, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by zulu Delta 534

I enjoy reading posts like this one as it tends to highlight how the mentality of the human race is ever changing.
I can remember when we bought cars to drive from point to point rather than to be safe to crash. I doubt if we even thought of having a crash.
I can remember when the driver was the one responsible for the shortcomings in road accidents rather than an ABS failure or a malfunction of the cornering enhancement device.
I can remember when we were saying exactly the same things about the quality of Japanese products as we are about Chinese ones today.
I can remember when the ratio of fatal accidents wasn't as high as it is today. Granted there are more cars on the road but the roads have white lines and are even bitumen sealed nowadays and a damn sight safer!
I can also remember when a "state of the art" motor car of the day cost about 400 quid and we used to get 32 Miles to the Gallon regularly (about 9l/100k).
But I suppose we have progressed a lot since then, or have we?
Regards
Glen

quite right!

**PAT303** · 9th July 2009, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by zulu Delta 534

I enjoy reading posts like this one as it tends to highlight how the mentality of the human race is ever changing.
I can remember when we bought cars to drive from point to point rather than to be safe to crash. I doubt if we even thought of having a crash.
I can remember when the driver was the one responsible for the shortcomings in road accidents rather than an ABS failure or a malfunction of the cornering enhancement device.
I can remember when we were saying exactly the same things about the quality of Japanese products as we are about Chinese ones today.
I can remember when the ratio of fatal accidents wasn't as high as it is today. Granted there are more cars on the road but the roads have white lines and are even bitumen sealed nowadays and a damn sight safer!
I can also remember when a "state of the art" motor car of the day cost about 400 quid and we used to get 32 Miles to the Gallon regularly (about 9l/100k).
But I suppose we have progressed a lot since then, or have we?
Regards
Glen

If only Glen we had people like you running the show,ABS,stability control blah blah,isn't that what the driver is for?. Pat

malsgoing130 · 9th July 2009, 11:08 AM

The Brilliance that was crash tested- First failure, fired the designer and shot the engineer. Then welded in a couple of UB's inder the sills and viola 3 star rated.
I wonder, playing devils advocate if they (star suppliers) ever randomly select a production model and crash test it - I mean for all previously test vehicles, does anyone know?

Mal

**abaddonxi** · 9th July 2009, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by malsgoing130

The Brilliance that was crash tested- First failure, fired the designer and shot the engineer. Then welded in a couple of UB's inder the sills and viola 3 star rated.
I wonder, playing devils advocate if they (star suppliers) ever randomly select a production model and crash test it - I mean for all previously test vehicles, does anyone know?

Mal

Dunno about random crash tests. I know that during the brief time I worked at RTA Road Safety, they did keep a database of crashes from police reports and insurance claims - so, nothing under a bingle - not reported, not claimed. Which would provide the same information.

Ever see a Saab that anything but a front end crumple?

Simon

**inside** · 9th July 2009, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by PAT303

If only Glen we had people like you running the show,ABS,stability control blah blah,isn't that what the driver is for?. Pat

Because you can't control what the other people out there are doing? You have remarkable faith in other people's driving skills.

**Bigbjorn** · 10th July 2009, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by V8Ian

XD was the last Falcon fitted with a bench front seat, all police cars were fitted with such.

Still an option, at least on utes. My XH ute has three across seating with a larger than usual fold-down armrest making it a two or three seater as required. Bit of a squeeze though, with three full grown adult males aboard. I can only try to imagine fitting three big bun faced coppers full of bludged beer and Chinese tucker across one.

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