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    The 47 series were the pick of them 1980 to 84, Otherwise the later 45 series 78 to 79.

    No problem with approach angle compared to a landy. Ramp over and departure angle can bring them undone at times though. The body sits further back so some think they have a longer front Not so I can assure you. As I have Landys and Toyotas here I find the rovers have a better weight distribution when off road but the Toyota copes with big weight and major abuse quite well.
    The 45 and 47 were a bloody good truck (and still are) in there days,
    I have just finished a 2H engine and HJ 60 power steering conversion to a good 79 model 45. So far very happy with it. Drives very well and has very tough running gear.

    Oh by the way... They have a great heater and don't leak when it rains. The windows and doors still work trouble free after many years of abuse.

    As much as I like my Rovers they do fall over in this part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangier Rover View Post
    The 47 series were the pick of them 1980 to 84, Otherwise the later 45 series 78 to 79.

    No problem with approach angle compared to a landy. Ramp over and departure angle can bring them undone at times though. The body sits further back so some think they have a longer front Not so I can assure you. As I have Landys and Toyotas here I find the rovers have a better weight distribution when off road but the Toyota copes with big weight and major abuse quite well.
    The 45 and 47 were a bloody good truck (and still are) in there days,
    I have just finished a 2H engine and HJ 60 power steering conversion to a good 79 model 45. So far very happy with it. Drives very well and has very tough running gear.

    I thought you might stick your head in here and write up something about Toyotas The Toyo you had in the shed hardly has any rust .and 2H motor with a Turbo and Intercooler kit would give the 4BD1T a run for it's Money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco_owner View Post
    I thought you might stick your head in here and write up somthing about Toyotas The Toyo you had in the shed hardly has any rust .and 2H motor with a Turbo and Intercooler kit would give the 4BD1T a run for it's Money.

    You saw it as it was Should see it now I goes very, very well. Smokes the MRFs well in second gear

    The 4BD1 T still has the Edge on hills. On a standing start the 2H has a wider torque curve.

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    I spent four years in seismic crews living in 45 and 47series 1 tonners and hated every minute of the most uncomfortable truck you could ever put on the road. Chassis was too thin, if you are looking at one check the round tube just behind the cab to ensure it isn't cracked or re-welded, nasty habit there as well as above the rear diff. These things were terrible in the bush lift a wheel or pickup a diagonal and your stopped, stearing components in front of front diff so extra care needed not to turn it pidgeon toed. 2H was very gutless on the road but was excellent in slow going, actualy drove one around the Chevoit ranges without brakes after the master cylinder developed a problem induced by dumb surveyors (us) We spent a week without brakes and managed to survive so good marks for allowing dumb drivers to do silly things without killing themselves.

    Useless in the desert, landies killed em in the Simpson...more driver ability tho. After a solid month and the knack of the right tyre pressures we were driving around in2wd more often on tracks that were really cut up from solid use, read dry and loose.

    Ergonomicly speaking, Too narrow, too short, couldn't sleep in it, handled terribly, two cuts of the wheel to avoid wandering stock and you are on your roof. We had a crew who rolled a cruiser every month for a year. (Instant dismissal until a party manager did it.) After driving 70s and 80series wagons they didn't get better until they got a coil rear end....bloody trucks. Compared to my Disco, they do not hold a candle to a landie. Juggies managed to turn brand new cruisers into junk in less than three years. Driver abuse, smashed trannie cases was the weakest link in the driveline yet I never had one leave me in the lurch.

    If you see a 45/47 series just walk away if you discover it ever worked for a seismic crew

    I vowed I would NEVER own a Landcruiser as a drive car. It actually turned me off 4WDs for years after that job.

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    I have a soft spot for them as I grew up in the back seat of a FJ40, The 45's had the 6 diesel which was a tough old motor. Simple, no nonsense vehicle.



    They were great in the 70's. As mentioned, Not sure you'd find many that aren't rusted out or painted purple with fibreglass panels and a 350Chev.

    I think the pick of the early cruisers was the BJ42LX. SWB, Disc front end, 3.5 4 cyl diesel, (Not sure if they had PWR steeing) - they even had a dash board

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonesy61 View Post
    I spent four years in seismic crews living in 45 and 47series 1 tonners and hated every minute of the most uncomfortable truck you could ever put on the road. Chassis was too thin, if you are looking at one check the round tube just behind the cab to ensure it isn't cracked or re-welded, nasty habit there as well as above the rear diff. These things were terrible in the bush lift a wheel or pickup a diagonal and your stopped, stearing components in front of front diff so extra care needed not to turn it pidgeon toed. 2H was very gutless on the road but was excellent in slow going, actualy drove one around the Chevoit ranges without brakes after the master cylinder developed a problem induced by dumb surveyors (us) We spent a week without brakes and managed to survive so good marks for allowing dumb drivers to do silly things without killing themselves.

    Useless in the desert, landies killed em in the Simpson...more driver ability tho. After a solid month and the knack of the right tyre pressures we were driving around in2wd more often on tracks that were really cut up from solid use, read dry and loose.

    Ergonomicly speaking, Too narrow, too short, couldn't sleep in it, handled terribly, two cuts of the wheel to avoid wandering stock and you are on your roof. We had a crew who rolled a cruiser every month for a year. (Instant dismissal until a party manager did it.) After driving 70s and 80series wagons they didn't get better until they got a coil rear end....bloody trucks. Compared to my Disco, they do not hold a candle to a landie. Juggies managed to turn brand new cruisers into junk in less than three years. Driver abuse, smashed trannie cases was the weakest link in the driveline yet I never had one leave me in the lurch.

    If you see a 45/47 series just walk away if you discover it ever worked for a seismic crew

    I vowed I would NEVER own a Landcruiser as a drive car. It actually turned me off 4WDs for years after that job.

    Sounds like the cruiser broke the driver in this case

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    ilove the little swb not a fan of the lwb hate 55series but if anyone has seen roothys red cruiser ute its awesome

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    A mate of mine has a HJ47 ute. 2H diesel. Uses about the same anount of fuel as my Rangie! Rough riding, cramped interior, slow, not very good offroad (no suspension flex). And he paid about $9000 for it!

    For that money I would buy a Rangie Classic and turn it into a ute.

  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJon View Post
    A mate of mine has a HJ47 ute. 2H diesel. Uses about the same anount of fuel as my Rangie! Rough riding, cramped interior, slow, not very good offroad (no suspension flex). And he paid about $9000 for it!

    For that money I would buy a Rangie Classic and turn it into a ute.
    9K sounds a bit rich...Although good 47s are getting very hard to find.
    I want one to put 80 series coil front in. Does he want to sell it?

    I find the 40series no more cramped than the fenders in some ways. The 40 is easier to get in and out of and you can drive it with the window up.
    The Bus steering wheel takes up a lot of room though.

    The Rangie ute concept.... I've always wanted build one up on a 130" chassis

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    The reason so many old blokes have back and kidney troubles is from SWB cruisers,I spent time in them when I was younger and thats why I have LR's,the reversed front springs that push the wheels harder into potholes is the dumbest idea ever invented. Pat

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