Fighting Females.

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Originally Posted by BBC

Why is that this issue has been referred to a number of times, without any acknowledgement that you don't actually need to be in possession of a vagina to be 'molested'....? Such treatment is likely to be more gender prevalent but, it is certainly not gender specific. An enemy might not be so gender discriminating. Is it something that we males have trouble realizing?

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oh very correct, i had to read your post a couple of times to get your point.
But yes, blue eyes white skin is an aphrodisiac to some cultures ( exaggerating for effect) although i have no personal knowledge of this ever happening, but i suspect that is because of where i was as opposed to it not happening elsewhere.
Personally its a bit like the first stone. i would not be prepared to put a female in such a situation but i would put a male. my reasons why are not easy to articulate as i am not so sure of them myself. maybe it has some thing to do with that book beside my bed.

talking of books. book number 4 or 5 of the Dune series has an interesting debate on the female army. science fiction i know but maybe not so when you look at the author.

theres exactly one reason I accept as to why females cant do some jobs in the military and its nothing to do with ability and everything to do with physiology.

Its hygiene.

I dont want to get into the whole messy deal of it but there are occasions and situation where the opportunity for adequate field hygiene isn't achievable. Its a long and convoluted debate which also got highly political when the advent of certain drugs that prevented certain things from happening and limited the ability of procreation lifted a lot of the burden of the initial problem was slandered as "Why should we do that xy+z are our natural rights" by certain members of the PC bandwagon who in my opinion should have been shot then drawn by the ankles behind a wagon for a good long way. Had said people kept their PC mouths shut this whole thing could have been over and we could have had towlies from burkaturbistan being neatly one shotted by ADF members with nicely form fitting body armour and Kevlar helmets.

I'm for it with the exception of a couple of trades and positions. (and they're mainly because I dont want to see 3 headed babies)

I think if they can pass the same phyiscal tests as the guys let them do any thing . back in the 80,s the girls BE tests were relaxed because to many were failing:eek: I have heard Daves hygeine question put forward too, some extra female products will have to be carried by the QM but this can be overcome, it will mean some consessions for the girls that guys dont get.
Remember equal rights does not mean we are the same (thank god):angel:
Dave when you had a real job how did they pick drivers and radio operators at my old unit if you could carry a section of 8 track link 100m you got to drive if not you were a radio op?

I dont think hygiene is that big a deal anymore,.
Girls are smart enough to control there own, um visits from aunty flows,
the rotations are higher then they used to be..
And in general people tend to wear stuff now that looks after the body more in extreme conditions.. I have a singlet I wear out field that dosnt hold smell for 2 weeks wet it and it Dries in no time. I’m sure girls that look into it have a range of options..
Does every soldier need to have the snip? Cause that could be as big a Hygiene issue?
Not every woman should/could be a front line soldier,. But I could say the same thing for men,.. Some Women are just built for the task, just as some men are..

BlkKnight,

GS-ADI is correct. Hygiene is something to be dealt with by both genders.

Sitting here writing this in west Africa and seeing women here, everyday living and labouring in their subsistence agriculture where, they hack their existence in the jungle environment of this place....carrying huge loads of water, wood, with a child wrapped onto their backs, living in a packed mud hut, giving birth, and no doubt.......MENSTRUATING.....all without the aid of a QM following them around with a pack of tampons.....My Goodness!!!!....how do they survive.....so far from a shopping centre!!!!! Without even a credit card!!!!!

Unbeknownst to most men....women have been carrying on in very hygienic ways since.....Mmmmm...well........since forever.

My, my, my.....modern living has stolen the collective imagination of the developed world.....whatever did we do in the 'good old days'?

Next!!!!

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Originally Posted by Numpty's Missus

:eek: You said that forbidden word :eek::eek:

Well done that man....he has it to a "T" or should that be "M"? :D:D

;) Very well said BBC...and very true

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X2 for BBC

UUUGH the word:eek: yes women have been coping for ever but men dont talk about secret womens business:p but it still has to be taken into account and can be over come if people want to. There are those who dont want to give any ground on both side of this debate, have to type quietly as have wife and two daughters in the house if i say they cant do something they take it as a challenge (and then beat me up)

The women might be able to cope :), but can the blokes cope with PMT ??!!! :eek::eek:


Deano

They have been known to get away with murder

To put it blunty, I would rather a murderous bitch beside me in a fire fight that I could trust, than a male concientious objector who at the worst possible moment could throw down his gun and plead for mercy.

When the brown smelly stuff hits the fan it's whats inside that counts not the outside attachments.

Go girls - if they are up to the same rigours as the males to get in.