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Thread: To fit a 4.6 or LPG to a D2a?

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    To fit a 4.6 or LPG to a D2a?

    I have a couple of questions which I would like to get some assistance from the websites members if possible thank you.

    I have come to the conclusion that my D2a V8 is just to slow, I know it has had the MAF replaced recently so it isn't that. The Disco has no mods at all done to it so I guess it is about as good as it gets for a standard 110k V8 auto. I have driven other V8's and I'd say mine is about average.

    I have been considering getting LPG fitted and if I remember rightly I have read on here apart from much better economy in running costs there is about an 18 kilowatt power increase. If so how much difference does this make to how they drive?

    If possible I'd like to hear from V8 Disco owners who have done the conversion on what their Disco's drive like now power wise.

    The other path is purchasing one of those recoed and cammed 4.6 engines from the mob in SA that supposedly develops 250 hp and 310 flb of torque. This would make the D2a hum along quite well and given power to weigth ratio might even under normal driving actually improve fuel economy over the underpowered 3.9

    Has anyone purchased one of these engines? And if so how does your Disco go now and what is your fuel economy like under normal driving?

    Apart from some great noise does a better free flowing exhaust make much if any difference?

    I don't mind paying the fuel bills if the old girl had some more zing but to pay such hefty fuel bills and go no where quickly to me doesn't seem right.

    I know it is quite contradictory to consider getting LPG fitted to get more power but hey what a great bonus if the old girl goes heaps better and costs less to run.

    Then of course I could fit a 4.6 and LPG but right now I'm thinking of doing either one or the other.

    Any assistance with your own experiences would be appreciated.

    Cheers,
    Terry

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    Hardly any difference between the 4.0 and 4.6

    4.6's are still pretty gutless IMO

    Id just give the 4.0 a top end fresh up..cam..port

    Would be looking at lots of money for a 4.6
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    LPG has a lower calorific value and as such will always produce less (not more) power than petrol. About 10-20% less power and a similar increase in fuel consumption. Tuning specifically for LPG running will reduce this difference.

    So LPG will not increase engine power.

    However I always thought that the 3.9/4.0 V8 versions has more than adequate power so maybe your car needs a good going over.

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    Hey Camo,

    The mob at SA that sell these recoed engines are claiming quite a lot more power then a standard 4.6. They have a decent cam fitted, flanged liners etc and the claimed 250 hp and the torque they say they develop is even more then a 4.4 Jag engine that comes in a D3 which is no slug.

    These motors are available for $4950 from memory which isn't an arm and a leg if it makes the old girl go well.

    If I did this then I'd fit the 4.0 in place of the aging 3.9 in my D1. Before I fitted it I'd get a decent cam fitted to it to liven it up some first. :-)



    Hi Garrycol,

    As I said it goes about the same as other 4.0 that I've driven, so it is about average in power output. I drove my wifes SsangYong Rexton diesel yesterday to Sydney and back and to frank it makes either of my V8 Disco's or anyother V8 Disco I driven feel very average. Call it a dick thing but I struggle with this fact.

    AND before a Diesel Disco owner jumps in and says anything no I'm not interested in another rattly oil burner.


    Cheers,
    Terry

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    Wink

    I would be very careful converting the D2 to LPG. Do a bit I research and maybe speak with Ritters in Melbourne. There is a lot of problems around converting the Rover V8 to sequential gas. It is causing a lot of slipped liners due to the inablity of the solenoids to stay in tune. I know of 3 people with slipped liners on the 4.0 and apparently there is a lot more.
    I agree with others that the 4.6 is not much different to the 4.0. I think the 4.0 is probably the superior motor.

    I looked at installing a supercharger to my D2 but it really doesn't fit.

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    The same mob do a 4.9 stroker kit,,
    they tell me around 25% increase in torque,,

    anything over 2600rpm and they get along quite nicely,,
    seem to like sitting on 3,,
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    Does anyone know if there is a website member within a 4 hour drive of Goulburn that has a D2 with one of these reconditioned and modified 4.6's fitted?

    Or even one of the 4.9's that Pedro speaks about?

    Cheers,
    Terry

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    If you really want power then just whack in Gen4 6.0l into the Disco, I think Marks Adaptors make an adaptor for it and they are probably cheaper than a 4.6.

    Last year at Robe I had a drag down the beach. I was in the diesel Pajero and he was in. D2 with 4.6 conversion. The diesel Paj easily out raced him to 100km/h.

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    Thanks Walker for the idea but I've owned a 317 kilowatt Gen4 and that isn't what I'm looking for otherwise I'd have kept my Senator.

    I'm only looking at trying to get a decent power increase and improve the drivability of the Disco, plus I like the idea of keeping the vehicle 100% Land Rover rather then a hybrid with a Yank engine in it.

    I'd be prepared to look at fitting a Chev to the D1 but the D1 is more for off road use and while a reasonable power increase would be a good thing I don't think I need to triple the horsepower output for off road usage which is roughly what you would get by fitting a Gen4 6.0.

    Now a 5.7 Chevy is a lovelly and very capable engine. But that's another story so back to trying to find out more info on these 4.6's.

    Cheers,
    Terry

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    OK maybe another dumb question but hey when your on a role best to stick with it, what horspower and torque does a standard 4.6 in good condition put out?

    It would seem so far that not to many people are very impressed with these engines standard even compared to a 4.0.

    cheers
    Terry

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