interesting if true...

**drivesafe** · 17th October 2009, 09:58 AM

It’s got to be plain old mentality. The yanks still think they not only have the right to bear arms, so it there for seems logical, if they can have the guns, they must be allowed to use them. ( not quite but sounds good )

The irony is that there are far more guns per 1000 head in neighbouring Canada, yet they have a much, MUCH lower kill rate.

**willem** · 17th October 2009, 02:11 PM

Statistics ... what was it that Disraeli said? 'There are lies, there are damned lies, and there are statistics'

Willem

**austastar** · 17th October 2009, 08:31 PM

Or

Statistics.... are like a bikini.
What they reveal is interesting, what they don't is vital.

cheers

**DeeJay** · 17th October 2009, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by willem

Statistics ... what was it that Disraeli said? 'There are lies, there are damned lies, and there are statistics'

Willem

Here is the correct statistic.

Firearms Death Rate per 100,000 by state. Definition, graph and map.

Crime Statistics > Firearms Death Rate per 100,000 (most recent) by state

# 1 District of Columbia:31.2
# 2 Alaska:20
# 3 Louisiana:19.5
# 4 Wyoming:18.8
# 5 Arizona:18
= 6 Nevada:17.3
= 6 Mississippi:17.3
# 8 New Mexico:16.6
# 9 Arkansas:16.3
# 10 Alabama:16.2
# 11 Tennessee:15.4
# 12 West Virginia:14.7
# 13 Montana:14.5
# 14 South Carolina:13.8
# 15 North Carolina:13.6
# 16 Georgia:13.4
= 17 Kentucky:13.1
= 17 Oklahoma:13.1
= 19 Missouri:12.3
= 19 Idaho:12.3
# 21 Indiana:11.7
= 22 Colorado:11.5
= 22 Maryland:11.5
= 24 Florida:11.1
= 24 Virginia:11.1
# 26 Texas:11
# 27 Michigan:10.9
# 28 Oregon:10.5
# 29 Pennsylvania:9.9
# 30 California:9.8
= 31 Illinois:9.7
= 31 Kansas:9.7
= 31 Utah:9.7
# 34 Vermont:9.6
= 35 Ohio:9.3
= 35 Washington:9.3
= 37 Delaware:9.1
= 37 North Dakota:9.1
= 39 Wisconsin:8.1
= 39 Nebraska:8.1
# 41 South Dakota:7.9
# 42 Iowa:6.7
# 43 Maine:6.5
# 44 Minnesota:6
# 45 New Hampshire:5.8
= 46 Rhode Island:5.1
= 46 New York:5.1
# 48 New Jersey:4.9
# 49 Connecticut:4.3
# 50 Massachusetts:3.1
# 51 Hawaii:2.8
Weighted average:11.5

DEFINITION: Number of Deaths Due to Firearms per 100,000 Population, 2002.

Not exactly the latest figures but, just looking around the Web, not a lot has changed

**VladTepes** · 17th October 2009, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by austastar

Or

Statistics.... are like a bikini.
What they reveal is interesting, what they don't is vital.

cheers

Haven't heard that one before.. I like it !

Didge · 17th October 2009, 10:48 PM

49.587% of statistics are made up on the spot, but I also like the bikini one better
Gerald
95 110 300tdi

**V8Ian** · 17th October 2009, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by VladTepes

Haven't heard that one before.. I like it !

Feel free to take it on board.

**3toes** · 20th October 2009, 08:52 AM

As has been said by other before me you never know what to believe with stastics. This one was in the news here a while ago.

Seems that the death rate for soldiers who had served in Iraq was higher (almost double) during the first 12 months they were back in the USA than while they were there. Most were due to motor bike and car related accidents.

**drivesafe** · 20th October 2009, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by 3toes

As has been said by other before me you never know what to believe with stastics. This one was in the news here a while ago.

Seems that the death rate for soldiers who had served in Iraq was higher (almost double) during the first 12 months they were back in the USA than while they were there. Most were due to motor bike and car related accidents.

Saw that, and they state there is an above average suicide rate amongst return iraqi war veterans too!

But no reasons given.

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