Those that get good Ks out of Coopers how much serious off road do you do, I will stick my neck out and say not a lot, my experience with Cooper Tyres is well recorded, they are CRAP pure and simple:twisted:
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Those that get good Ks out of Coopers how much serious off road do you do, I will stick my neck out and say not a lot, my experience with Cooper Tyres is well recorded, they are CRAP pure and simple:twisted:
Baz.
Sith, with all due respect, could it be operator error.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sith
As said by many as well as driving instructors, lugs will tear off any tyre if in-correct pressure in tyres does not suit the situation and or people are traversing too quickly.
A tyre is not in-destructable and if we deflate tyres and drive slowly I bet even a very cheap tyre would perform well.
I have many times seen people just say Nah I got a V8 with wolf management and 4inch lift and can go anywhere and watch how fast I can do it too.
Many You-tube videos are evidence of that. Drive slow and let the tyres down and i bet you will have a much better run with your tyres.
If you already are a careful slow and steady man than forget what I said and happy roving.
True, but the difference is that most other tyres will tear part of the tread block but the tread block remains firmly attached to the carcass.Quote:
Originally Posted by big guy
The ST on the other hand will tear the carcass resulting the removal of the entire tread block, and the minor cracking is probably also the reason for that tyres more common than mosts tread delamination.
It doesn't take much to damage these tyres. Just a low key jaunt through the Snowy/Murray region is enough.
From memeory you were on the High Country Easter trip with the family weren't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by isuzu110
Wasn't that the coldest trip ever!
Anyhow, I started the thread to alert people of a possible problem, not to bag a brand of tyre. Lets not get too emotional about it.
Nope , its hardly driver error when I watch my tyre pressures and route taken , also Tyre Power also agreed that the "batch" was a bad one ...
even harder to have a WOLF 3DV4 on a 300 tdi defender ...
Let me guess .... you sell them or work for them
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Originally Posted by big guy
Neither sell or work for someone who does, not even close and lots of 4 wheel driving on rock and shale, then again can't say I have had many tyre problems at all other than last long weekend when I slashed the sidewall on a Sava on the 80 series (they were on it when I got it) and destroyed the tyre.
Lots of hard off roading, especially through the summer periods on stinking hot days, loaded up with no tyre problems. Maybe your just unlucky.
Got a set of Cooper H/T :eek: for the P38. That was about 20,000 km ago Like the wise man said, mostly one travels long distances on the bitumen to get to the rough stuff... so, on sand/gravel/lotza dirt road corrugations...take it easy / watch pressures ...they've been quite reasonable... I remember when Evan Green and "Gelignite" Jack Murray did a figure 8 crossing of Oz in an Austin 1800 and a Mini Minor on standard tyres...
Tearing lugs off tyres is just a heavy right foot on rocky ground. Try driving properly at the correct pressures. I see mates in the middle of summer spinning their Simex Centipedes on rocks till smoke comes off and then cry about torn lugs. They are MUD tyres!!! Hence, the BIG LUGS!
I've got STTs and they're fine... and i'm not all that nice to them either. 80% offroad, 20% on (weekend truck).
PS: I've heard they WERE a poor tyre... How old are all these worst-tyre-in-the-world stories?
Have a set of S/Ts about 30 000 so far no problems. They are just the standard D2 size passenger tyres. I have had some cuts in the tread blocks but that was because I lost my air bag suspension and had to slowly climb up a rocky section with the suspension down on the bump stops, thus I had to slowly crawl over the bumps and had a fair amount of wheel spin doing that.
After reading all the gripes what would people suggest you replace them with if you need a bit of grip?
Unfortunately I am one of those who feel lucky if I even do 20% off road. Point is that your 20% off road would be limited to sand or reasonable tracks if you just have AT tyres. I have found the S/Ts to have just enough bite to get you through the slippery stuff but still be OK on road. Bit noisy but OK. I know you would get better road milage and all that with a road or AT tyre but I would have no confidence when I do get the chance to have some real fun. Tyres are probably the most important thing after a Landy when it comes to a bit of confidence off road. Seems like a waist of time to have a 4X4 without a S/T or mud style tyre to me.