Troopy or Defender ?

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Originally Posted by Numpty's Missus

I think you will find the same for Land Rover in many situations...when I confused the engine immobiliser in our Defender, the RACQ wouldn't even look at it and called a tow truck straight off. When it got to the dealers they turned the key and it started :confused:

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All new vehicles get towed,the days of bush mechanics is over,at least with LR you can get the gear to get them going and parts are overnight freight.Over here Tojo don't have any parts,everything is kept over east and they only send it if you pay for it first. Pat

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Originally Posted by macksrallye

If he's going new don't get a new Troopy. Boss has one of the v8 diesels as a work car & we a constanctly putting oil in it, it leaks worse than a landy & we all know that if a landy isn't leaking there is no oil in it.

Aside from that I agree with rockyroad. When I was looking at a new car I'd rounded it down to a early 2000's Prado or Disco TD5. The Prado's were all around $3-5000 more expensive than the Disco's with same age/simular km's. I can't see this being any different for a Troopy.

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Tojo can't fix the oil usage so now you just go to a dealer and they fill them for free,drop in for a top up and off you go!!!.I have my own thoughts on the trouble but 2 or now 3 fix's hasn't stopped them burning it. Pat

Went to a Toyota dealer about a year ago not long after the new troopie came out they didn't have any on the showroom floor but the salesman let me sit in a customers vehicle that was in the workshop.

after feeling like I had been taken back to the 80's with the look of the dashboard, I asked the salesman how much it was he said around 75-80 thousand, I then asked if I could test drive one.

The salesman said to me I wouldn't be able to test drive one as they don't have a demo vehicle and that most people just buy them without test driving them, to which I said I am not paying 75 to 80 thousand for a vehicle i have never test driven.

just goes to show that toyota drivers are so hung up on the name that they don't even bother driving them before they buy them.

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Originally Posted by MADDOG

Went to a Toyota dealer about a year ago not long after the new troopie came out they didn't have any on the showroom floor but the salesman let me sit in a customers vehicle that was in the workshop.

after feeling like I had been taken back to the 80's with the look of the dashboard, I asked the salesman how much it was he said around 75-80 thousand, I then asked if I could test drive one.

The salesman said to me I wouldn't be able to test drive one as they don't have a demo vehicle and that most people just buy them without test driving them, to which I said I am not paying 75 to 80 thousand for a vehicle i have never test driven.

just goes to show that toyota drivers are so hung up on the name that they don't even bother driving them before they buy them.

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Same thing happened to my daughter at the Honda shop, she ended up with a Rav.

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Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

in the deefer or the troopie.

the troopies at work struggle to even hit 15l/100 most of the time.

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oh misread your post I thought you were saying that the troopie has a more economical cruising speed than the defender...which is why I wrote that as I get better than that at non eco speeds

I like Toyotas - especiallly the 70 series.

Pros
More aftermarket bits
More power and modern bits (airbags etc)
Better Dealer network (big plus if you are remote)

Cons
More expensive to buy
More expensive to own (fuel mainly)
less character
less unique

no I was refering to the cruising speed at which the vehicle is the most economical

Defenders thats traditionally 95/100 kph for anything from 9.5-12.5l/100
for the troopies (least the work ones) its about 110 for 14-18l/100

while the deefer will cruise around at 110 its better on fuel at the 95/100 mark

the troopies seem to be pretty liniear on fuel from about 85-110 so you might as well do 110 and get there quicker.

thats the advantage of a bigger engine, it burns more fuel overall but its not stressed as much. (yes I know thats not the best wording but it'll do) where as a smaller turbo engine will burn less fuel as the load comes off but can still make the power by winding the fuel and the boost up when you need it.

first things first - is he going to be travelling alone? if yes, will he tow a camper? assuming no, does he want to sleep in the vehicle? roof top tent? swag?

Personally I'd be thinking a single cab 130 with slipon camper would suit very well and better than either the 110 wagon or tojo troopie.


Don't forget he will probably need 800+km worth of off road fuel capacity - means aftermarket tanks or jerry cans for both wagons....

My take on this is that Troopies are 20k more than defenders too :o

Functionally, they are significantly heavier. This means you'll use more fuel pushing them, and off road generally extra weight is bad. The two door thing is annoying too. Also they have IFS on the front and leaves on the back.. I'd think a defender would drive better any day.

I spent a year of work driving a 2004 landcruiser ute fitted with an xl body, at the end of the day i was always in pain as the drivers seat was crap[i had the vehicle brand new], it was also thirsty and needed its 2 tanks, yes it was a torquey engine, but it was a heavy truck and i was glad to see it go, most people i spoke to about the vehicle[who also drove them daily] reckoned they lasted for ever as they were so slow they couldnt wear out, yes i am biased as i own a 300tdi 110, it is far more comfortable[front seats] and a lot cheaper to run[fuel] and a lot less rust prone, also cheaper to register in Qld. However a friend has a new v8 diesel cruiser ute and loves it over the nissan 4.2 diesel it replaced, so its personal