Think about rollover protection...

**justinc** · 27th November 2009, 10:28 PM

This is a good example of the almost total lack of ROP a Defender has. Discos and RRC aren't much better.

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JC

**Psimpson7** · 27th November 2009, 10:35 PM

They never look good do they after going over......

In all honesty I really think a roll bar or at the very least a decent cargo barrier type thing is almost essential in Defenders.

Rangier Rover · 27th November 2009, 10:38 PM

My greatest fear of the Rovers and similar

I often worry about the safety of my wife and kids with the old Rangie.
Another reason I need to update our family drive.

**justinc** · 27th November 2009, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by Rangier Rover

My greatest fear of the Rovers and similar

I often worry about the safety of my wife and kids with the old Rangie.
Another reason I need to update our family drive.

After deciding to keep the RR, It is getting a cage in the new year. An internal one, built locally. I know these things can be expensive, but really they aren't when you see pics like that.

One of my customers and his wife would have been killed had their 130 DC not had an exo cage, fitted by the previous owner. A sobering sight I can tell you when the wreck turned up on a flat tray at work

JC

**justinc** · 27th November 2009, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by Psimpson7

They never look good do they after going over......

In all honesty I really think a roll bar or at the very least a decent cargo barrier type thing is almost essential in Defenders.

True Pete, I took your advice about shopping around etc, decided to go with a locally constructed cage made by a fellow who builds rally car cages.

JC

**dmdigital** · 27th November 2009, 10:48 PM

It's not just Land Rovers! Patrols, Land Cruisers, Prados etc all suffer the same fait in a roll-over. Guy at work rolled a 2009 Prado and the results were not pretty. D3, D4 new RR's and I would hope the new Prado and 200 series are improvements on this.

Me, I've put a D1 on its roof and the cargo barrier saved our lives. Should almost be compulsory fit.

**Psimpson7** · 27th November 2009, 10:52 PM

Don't think it gets much worse than Defender's though. That cast alloy windscreen frame is the main culprit and they seem to get worse every year....

If we get another one, a cage will be fitted as a matter of priority.

Would like to see some pics of the cage Justin when you get it done.

Rest of it looks great so far.

Rgds
Pete

Rangier Rover · 27th November 2009, 10:58 PM

I really wonder how some of these new things comply with crash regulations. They only seem to worry about the front and side impact if it happens.

I'm going to fit a cargo barrier in my old Rangie at a minimum.

**dmdigital** · 27th November 2009, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by Psimpson7

Don't think it gets much worse than Defender's though. That cast alloy windscreen frame is the main culprit and they seem to get worse every year....

I'd put them on par with a 70+ series Land Cruiser in a roll over. Neither is very pretty afterwards.

**RichardK** · 27th November 2009, 11:05 PM

As I understand it the D3's have a high tensile reinforcement across the front windscreen, and I am led to believe across the roof at another point or points and are very strong in the event of a rollover.
When the Safari snorkel is installed (I did my own) a cobalt tipped drill needs to be used to drill the fixing holes in the upper A pillar

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