Thread: Think about rollover protection...

The defenders and all coil sprung versions can and do roll even at slow speed.
So don't think that just because you are only driving at 15kph,that if you have to turn the steering wheel hard in one direction to miss an object on a track or road,that you Defender will stay upright then be warned that sometimes you will find your vehicle sitting on its roof,much to your amazement.
Why would i tell you this,because i have been in a defender that did just this,it completely rolled at low speed and ended up sitting on its roof.
A real low speed rollover does not usually crush the roof.
The latest Defenders and the Td5s are the worst offenders.

Originally Posted by pirasea

Hi guys, I've only had a 95 Def since august this year. Is it going to be that easy to rollover considering how slow they are on road and using a modicum of common sense off road. Like if I'm doing a bit of normal off roading knowing I don't have any budget in reserve for repairs I'm likely to avoid extreme situations. I know they're narrow, etc but is it a common occurrence? cheers gerald

theres a member on here that rolleds his at 40kph

Originally Posted by justinc

This is a good example of the almost total lack of ROP a Defender has. Discos and RRC aren't much better.

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Please drive carefully everybody
JC

As rollovers go that one is not too bad.As a retired Road Accident Firie,that roof looks to me to have been removed using the jaws of life.Also the busted steering wheel appears to have been caused by the driver not wearing seat belts and wore it.
John ( disco 44 )

IMO they arent unstable really no, its just if they do go over they dont tend to stand up too well.

Oh dear. I have thought about a cargo barrier many times but I'm so tight and I don't really like the idea of looking through the grill in the rearview mirror.

But since I carry a spare wheel and Engel loose in the back, that would make me a bit silly to keep thinking and not acting wouldn't it?

Can you still get Milfords for 300tdi Defenders, I spose you can.

Originally Posted by Disco44

As rollovers go that one is not too bad.As a retired Road Accident Firie,that roof looks to me to have been removed using the jaws of life.Also the busted steering wheel appears to have been caused by the driver not wearing seat belts and wore it.
John ( disco 44 )

I thought the same thing - that the roofs been cut off. Excluding the windscreen frame which is bent backwards the roof pillars all look like they stood up fairly well, particularly the B pillar judging by the way the cars landed.

Not a lot left to salvage on that one though, maybe engine & box?

Jon

I called up off the back of this post to see the price of a roll bar in the rear of the RRC. I have learned so far

1. if its in the passenger area the seats cant carry passengers
2. in the rear load area its ok
3. external cages are weaker because they have no cross bracing and they are hard to fit.

So a bar in the rear into the wheel arches, and pobssibly welding in some hard points is the way to go. It will be roughly 450mpa mild steel with high plastic deformation, but not sure about elastic tho.

Costs range between $1100 to 2k fitted.

I would like to know if anyone has some more experiance in this area or has one fitted.

The front of the car will crush on an angle from the bonnet area to the bar, the kids would be much safer. Bar would get padded.

Ive got a full internal/external cage.

6pt chassis mounted. Had to be engineered.









I love it!

i agree that a full external with no diagnols is no where near as good as an internal with diagnols, but it means that it doesnt need to be engineered as people class them as ladder racks.

Some states wont allow a 6 point cage legally. Qld are one of the only ones that do.

It took for ever for me to fit it!