Thread: Australia left without fearless leader

I get the impression that it generally isn't the quality of the opposition leader than tumbles the incumbent so much as how ****ed the community is with the government of the day.

Don't worry Krudd will reappear as soon as he finds a camera he hasn't stood in front of


Why is voting compulsory in Australia? Would you vote for any of them if you didn't have to?

Originally Posted by abaddonxi

I get the impression that it generally isn't the quality of the opposition leader than tumbles the incumbent so much as how ****ed the community is with the government of the day.

Would have to agree with this statement

Rudd didn't win the last election - Howard lost it.

Similarly in WA State politics - Colin Barnett certainly didn't win the last election - Carpenter lost it.

If we see a change of government at the next federal election, it is unlikely to be because the Liberals will win the election - much more likely to be because Rudd and Dullard will lose it.

What a relief, for a few seconds after seeing the heading I thought something had happened to Ricky Ponting!

blimey you guys calm down, are you suggesting there actually is any difference between conservative labour and conservative Liberals ??
If Rudd wasn't "getting a fair shake of the sauce bottle mate" we would probably have some other self serving pollie giving it his/her all to improve thier own existance at the expense of the country.
Who ever you vote for government wins!

I understand nothing of Politics , Tis why I don't get involved in these sorts debates on the Interweb
However I still fail to see what little difference it makes if KRudd was here or overseas.
can't stand him anyway.

Originally Posted by numpty

I believe that the country had had it's fill of ultra right wing conservatism when Little Johnny was voted out. Or are you suggesting there is another change coming in the ranks of would be Liberal leaders.

Hmmm ... some here think Howard and Rudd are just variations on a conservative theme, others think that Howard was ultra right wing conservative!? I reckon Howard was a moderate conservative who did a good job for his country.

I have a relative who is a lobbyist with strong labor leanings who had a lot of opportunity to observe Howard at close quarters. and he too reckons Howard did a good job. Even if you don't agree with Howard's politics you would have to say that he gave his heart and soul to the country in his job.

As for the current Liberal leader ... don't write him off too quick! There's a lot of ability and determination there.

Willem

The current Liberal leader? I wonder if he'll still be in that position come the next election.

My view is that John Howard was the right leader for the wrong century / decade. He was 30-40 years too late with the policy he tried to implement and was completely out of touch with what most Australians wanted. Unfortunately it took 2, maybe 3, elections for the Australian public on a whole to realise this.

His heart might've been in the right place but it still didn't make him a good or great leader.